Last time I checked, the executive didn’t decide about indictments or sentences. But I guess that’s all going to change if Dementia Don wins.
Guantanamo Bay has entered the conversation.
The argument there was that they were POWs captured on the battlefield, and thus under the purview of the CinC.
There is no way to make that argument regarding Zuckerberg.
Not POWs, but enemy combatants, which they made up to avoid responsibilities to POWs.
Fair point. Regardless, not something that could be done with Zuckerberg. He couldn’t lock him up for the same reason he couldn’t lock Hillary up.
The supreme court has ruled 6-3 that Zuck belongs in Gitmo because Chewbacca is a wookie and there are no wookies on Endor.
I’ve seen a Wookie on Endor. Fairly certain I was there for it.
Dictatorships don’t care about making an argument.
Yeah I was kind of curious as to how this story would be spun into a negative story against Trump. Anyone who does something illegal should be sentenced appropriately. Maybe “the president can’t set the sentence” will be the tack with this one?
If a life sentence is appropriate for interfering with an election, I look forward to Trump’s impending life sentence.
Because anyone who does something illegal should be sentenced appropriately, right?
I wouldn’t expect anything less from a self-proclaimed Law-and-Order candidate.
Fair enough. The “perfect phone call” was actually pretty bad, it’s the one case against him that I think probably has a lot of merit. I was thinking at the time that it was probably illegal.
So you think he should be imprisoned for the rest of his life, right? That’s the appropriate sentence? You seem to be agreeing with Trump here.
I mean something like 10 to 20 years sounds fair to me if that’s the appropriate sentence (IDK what election interference sentences look like), which would probably end up being the rest of his life anyways
Yeah I was kind of curious as to how this story would be spun into a negative story against Trump.
That says more about you than it does about the story.
Remember when his senior DOJ staff threatened to quit when he told them that a yes-man would be their boss and help overturn the election? Trump’s whole administration was about corrupting the executive branch.
He is a racist traitor who doesn’t belong anywhere near power; he should be in prison.
Anyone who continues to support him is a reactionary traitor, too.
Yeah, how can the potential next head of state threatening a specific individual with an arbitrary sentence of life imprisonment for some vague charge like “doing anything illegal” possibly be spun into a negative story?
When did crazy talk become the norm. Was it when trump first ran? Was it before? Its so hard to remember with the constant crazy talk all over.
The Democrats will find a way!
I think it’s Trump trying to find a way. In specific, find a way to do something outside of his presidential powers.
He wanted to “lock her up” with Hillary too. Were you one of the people chanting that? Have you noticed she hasn’t been locked up yet even though he had four years to do it?
And long investigation hearings that she didn’t fall asleep in.
Have you noticed she hasn’t been locked up yet even though he had four years to do it?
I’ll just leave that there. It makes the point I would have made pretty succinctly.
The point that he makes threats about imprisoning people and can’t follow through because it’s not within his abilities?
Not quite, but you’re pretty warm!
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You do realize that when Trump says “anything illegal” he really means “anything I don’t like”, right?
Also, surely you think that Trump should be sentenced appropriately for violating federal law at Arlington cemetery?
The logical line of “when the guy I don’t like says anything, he really means what I say he means” is pretty errant and toxic. I cringe when the right does it too, “you can tell a Democrat is lying because they’ve opened their mouth”. It’s stupid and ridiculous.
IDK what happened for sure at the cemetery, I’d need some footage and to read up on the pertaining law a little before I make a judgement on that.
I don’t know if you’ve kept your head buried in the sand for 8 years, but all we’ve seen is Trump proving that he believes any perceived wrongdoing to himself is a crime. It’s a CEO philosophy of fire anyone that disagrees.
IDK what happened for sure at the cemetery, I’d need some footage and to read up on the pertaining law a little before I make a judgement on that.
The US Army releasing a statement that a) what Trump and his campaign did there was illegal and b) that they physically attacked the person who tried to stop them from breaking the law isn’t good enough for you? When it’s Trump you need footage and to do some “research” before accepting any facts, huh? What a joke.
The US Army releasing a statement that a) what Trump and his campaign did there was illegal and b) that they physically attacked the person who tried to stop them from breaking the law isn’t good enough for you?
Why would it be? Does the government tell the truth all the time?
Everything bad that’s said about Trump is a lie, right? He’s basically Yahweh.
Trump has proven that’s what he means at literally every possible opportunity for nearly a decade. You cannot possibly not have come to that realization without purposefully ignoring it because you like him, claiming it’s some weird partisan issue is certifiably weird.
He took a campaign photo in section 60 at the cemetery, that is a violation of federal law. You don’t need a video, you’re just giving him a pass because you don’t care what he does or who it hurts.
Have you heard of the separation of powers?
Yes
Diaper Don belongs in prison
Illegal? Like marking legitimate news stories that criticize Trump as spam to scare away voters from reading them?
Haha he is probably referring to acquiescing to government requests to censor stories that could help Trump in an election. Which doesn’t make the most sense because Zuckerberg himself says that he regrets doing that in the past and won’t do it in the future. Maybe he wants to make sure?
So like this then? https://lemmy.world/post/19224767
Sort of? They’re similar but this is in reference to Zuckerberg admitting he colluded with the government to temporarily censor a negative story about Hunter Biden.
That is legal.
Are you saying he colluded with the government to interfere in the 2020 election?
Yes. And so did Zuckerberg. Did you not hear what he said? He admitted to it this week.
The government and Facebook did election fraud… in 2020?
Not like in a “find the votes” sense, but yes they used their power to sway the election at the behest of the government. There’s no way you don’t know this already.
He’s probably referring to some delusion he manifested in his own mind during a ministroke he had while pinching off a particularly fat McD’s turd.
I will not give him the benefit of the doubt here, you’re only assuming he’s referencing reality.
Sounds like great incentive for Zuck to do everything in his power to make sure Trump doesn’t get reelected.
I’m beginning to think this Trump guy doesn’t think things through…
Tomorrow he won’t remember saying it. It’ll be a democrats fault.
Bold to assume supporting anyone but trump is legal (under the trumpian definition of legality).
Why? Is he breaking the law?
I’d actually prefer the justice system abide by the law and current sentencing guidelines. But like yes, obviously he should be prosecuted if he breaks the law just like…anyone else you might name.
Ridiculous. If you can’t even rise above the law by inflating your wallet, what incentive is there to get rich. /s
Bit of an empty threat when he can just upload his consciousness into a different copy of his current model.
Anything illegal in this case = anything trump dislikes.
Full petty dictator mode.
I mean we should be doing that if that happens.
I love that he only manages to be right about something when he’s wrong at a far more fundamental level.
Trump legitimately strikes me as “What if the protagonist of the Sonichu comics got elected.” Sometimes
Maybe Zucc and Trump can be cellmates
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It would be cool with me if both Zuckerberg and Donald went to jail for the rest of their lives.
i’d really enjoy seeing him try
If it would be a life sentence, then Zuckerburg might as well assassinate him.
(note: this is hypothetical, I’m not advocating Trump’s assassination, I much prefer he win less than 40% of the popular vote and less than 200 EVs, and that he runs again for President in 2028, 2032, and 2036)
IDK I do not want to see Trump running in 2028, 2032, 2036. I may be voting for him for his policies, but I am growing weary of his rhetoric and antics and am ready to move past him and get to whatever the future of the GOP is going to be. Especially if it’s not MAGA.
What kind of policies are you refering to? Im curious
Lower taxes, increasing oil production, stronger negotiations with world powers, securing the border, etc.
Trump already had 4 years of presidency. How did he perform on all those merits that you just said?
Pretty well except for exploding inflation and the deficit through the COVID-19 stimulus checks, and the relatively slow construction and repair of border wall
Could you define pretty well? Make it concrete and then source all of it to support pretty well? And will it trump (yes bad word joke) the exceptions you mentioned?
I mean…he did lower taxes.
https://www.investopedia.com/taxes/trumps-tax-reform-plan-explained/
He signed off on the Keystone XL pipeline as well.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/trump-administration-approves-keystone-pipeline-on-u-s-land
In fact, Trump oversaw the greatest increase in Oil production during his tenure, which likely helped keep oil and gas prices low during that time frame:
With international affairs, he got along well enough with even enemies like Kim Jong Un to be able to set foot into North Korea, which no president has ever done before.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/29/politics/kim-jong-un-donald-trump-dmz-north-korea/index.html
He supported sanctions that Iran’s economy so that, among other things, they couldn’t fund terror operations like October 7th.
So… largely democrat policies?.. that actually get done?
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You’re a fucking fascist then
Nuh uh, I’m waiting for marriage
“The party of law and order”
Mafia boss strikes again
Simultaneously, a Brazilian judge is threatening Musk. The judge even seized the Starlink’s local accounts (https://g1.globo.com/politica/blog/valdo-cruz/post/2024/08/29/na-falta-de-representante-da-x-no-brasil-stf-bloqueou-recursos-financeiros-da-starlink-de-elon-musk.ghtml) in order to enforce fines against Musk. I’m not entering the merit of the matter, but it’s curious the pattern.
It’s not surprising though. During election season, interested parties both for and against censorship and election interference get more vocal and forceful on the matter.
Were was this Trump when younger Trump did LOTS of illegal stuff? Maybe he could have threatened him.
It’s pretty much happening now, although the president isn’t the one saying stuff like this, it’s the people prosecuting him.