This will be their narrative now.

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    Not a democrat, not really a republican either. Mostly just crazy.

    • Supports Trump 2016
    • Supports anyone but Trump 2020 - Briefly likes Bernie but then mainly has a parasocial relationship with Tulsi Gabbard (offers to write speeches, sends speeches to their email). Eventually gets on board with Biden Harris.
    • Somehow likes Kim Jong Un, has another parasocial relationship inviting to Hawaii and asking to be an ambassador.
    • Latches onto George Floyd protests supporting police reform.
    • Latches onto Hong Kong supporting independence. Again reaching out to be a kind of diplomat in a parasocial relationship with Carrie Lam and including his phone number and email. He does that a lot.
    • Latches onto supporting Ukraine. Has a parasocial relationship with Zelenskyy. Goes there and volunteers to help recruit eventually but people thought he was nuts over there. Kept offering to provide thousands of Afghan soldiers?
    • Asks Elon Musk about selling him a rocket to attack Putin…
    • Latches onto Taiwan supporting independence. Again offering thousands of Afghan soldiers.
    • Writes a book telling Iran they should assassinate Trump.
    • Believes China has a pneumonia bioweapon it’s using to silence democracy
    • This election his dream ticket was Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikki Haley (and yet Ramaswamy is not pro Ukraine while Haley is so I’m not sure why he’d want Haley as the VP)

    https://i.imgur.com/MU5PECk.png - here’s a png of some of the tweets he made

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        Can’t someone ask him what his motives were?

        You assume the FBI, secret service, and every other 3 letter agency who can get access to his cell aren’t doing exactly that?

        Given his biography, I would expect a string of conspiracy laden answers and generally incoherent explanations, though.

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          But isn’t that the most honest answer. Some form of mania. The GOP want us to live in a world where only democrats can ignite extremist violent outbursts. All while courting extremists. If the democrats rhetoric makes people violent then surely the GOPs rhetoric will do the same?

          I dunno. I’m trying to apply logic to an illogical argument. So much of the time we should just shut these people off and work are hardest to deplatform them rather then just fact checking. It’s a type of pollution, which is fine in small doses, but it’s destroying the public square. That and all the shameless advertisments.

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        Do we even know he wanted to hurt Trump in the first place? He made no attempt at attacking him, he was just hiding with a weapon. Which might have been in order to protect Trump from assassins as far as we know. Did anyone ask?

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          Seems like we all went to our default internet sleuthing because the gunman is always dead. Maybe, like, someone could check in on him. I’m pretty sure it’s legal and such. Might need like permission but the dude still has rights until his trails complete.

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      That too, but more importantly, he wasn’t a registered Democrat. Which is what makes you a Democrat.

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        That’s really a terrible way to make that assessment. I’m registered as a Republican in my state so I can vote in their primary, but that doesn’t reflect who I actually support.

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            That’s moderately useful for statistics purposes, but that’s all. It does not mean every individual person who registers as Republican believes in Republican values and votes for Republicans. Nor is it a complete list, plenty of states don’t require registration for primaries so there are lots of people who don’t bother declaring either way.

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              Then how do you define whether or not someone is a Democrat? Because Hannity insists this guy is one.

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                I personally prefer the idea that democrats and republicans are elected party members and party officials and that voters are Americans, who can choose to support any of (or none of) these independent organizations. In the same way that I am not a Seattle Kraken.

                (ETA: also, you can track a direct line of interest in treating politics like a team sport and what Hannity is trying to do, so literally as far away from that as you can get is what I’m talking about.)

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                The same way I define if someone is gay, christian, or whatever other personal label, I ask them. If that’s not an option, I’m not going to make a judgement based on random shit.

                This guy was a complicated person who doesn’t seem to strongly identify with either party, obviously Hannity is full of shit, but that doesn’t mean we should lose sight of nuance in our reality.

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          Have you considered not doing that? Considering that as far as Democratic Party spending is concerned there isn’t a discernable difference between a literal RINO and MAGA.

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            Living in a deep red state, it’s the only chance I have to cast a vote that matters. Not just the presidency, but most of our state and local politicians are decided in the Republican primary. Half the positions I’m talking about literally run unopposed in the general election. So I’m going to keep voting for the lesser evil and doing what I can where I live.

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            Read my comments further down. Your party affiliation is whatever you decide it is. There are plenty of reasons to register, vote, or support candidates contrary to party affiliation. That doesn’t make you ‘not party X’ unless you decide you are no longer supporting party X. It seems pretty simple to me.

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              There isn’t a democratic candidate I wouldn’t vote for. Doesn’t mean I identify as one. Not refuting you but your interpretation is much more complex then assigning based on actual affiliation.

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        That would be inconvenient to Trump’s claims except that the truth doesn’t matter ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    When you train your base to be militant whenever they don’t get their way, you can be assured that you will always be on the chopping block. Look up the French revolution. Or even the fascist uprisings in Germany and Italy. I fighting will happen because you created an environment in which decent is punishable with death.

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      idiotic dumbass

      That’s a funny way to spell “intentional liar.”

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    These fucks are bitching about this while their candidates openly encourage domestic terrorism against Haitians.

    Fuck 'em.

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    they also called the jan 6th people “antifa”.

    The funniest possible outcome is if Biden pardoned the dude.

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        idk, I’m hoping Dark Brandon makes one final appearance. It should be obvious this guy need mental help, not prison. And that assassination attempts are the logical result of proclaiming you want to be a dictator.

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    The undecided voters this year have really been deciding with a vengeance

    This latest guy having a ton of Ukraine posts is probably also part of them being like “he’s a democrat”- there’s even a picture of him with blue hair

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    Person: Votes for Trump. Republicans: A Democrat!

    Anyways even though Hannity is LYING about Assassination attempts can DEMOCRATS please tone down Their Rhetoric?

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      Imo, saying you want to be “dictator day 1” this is the obvious outcome. This is 100% Trump’s own statements that caused this.

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    Why does everyone in that picture look like they’re standing in front of fun house mirrors?

    (I know what the obvious answer is, it just caught me off guard.)

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    Isn’t this new guy that was arrested a Democrat?

    Records show Routh, 58, lived in North Carolina for most of his life before moving to Hawaii in 2018. In 2020, he made a social media post backing Trump’s reelection, but in more recent years his posts have expressed support for Biden and Harris.

    The first one wasn’t iirc so Hannity is full of it, but this attack has legs once they get the wording ‘right’. Assholes (Hannity + Assassin).

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      Expressing support for Biden and Harris equals Democrat. You’ve heard it here first, folks!

      Pictured- Democrat:

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            There is no ‘make up your mind’. There is only a building of evidence. Unless you’re willing to declare some objective standard for what everyone considers an ‘official Democrat’…

            In the meantime, many people register into a party falsely to do things like manipulate primary votes and such. A common attack vector for the first would-be assassin as I recall. To say “he is or isn’t” is pretty much in the eye of the beholder and we’re discussing points undecideds will consider relevant.

            My mind is currently leaning to ‘way too many people will think he is a Democrat for this to be good for Democrats’.

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              This you?

              So, can you answer your question? Your question was not about what people will think. Your question was whether or not he was a Democrat.

              Is he a Democrat?

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                  Yes, one of those registered independent Democrats you hear oh so much about.

                  You going to bat for Hannity’s conspiracy bullshit is very telling.

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              Unless you’re willing to declare some objective standard for what everyone considers an ‘official Democrat’…

              Registering as a Democrat makes someone an “official Democrat” since registering makes it official.

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                  That they are a traitor to the nation and should be ashamed, but they are officially a Democrat because of their registration. That is why they get to vote in the primary, because registering makes it official no matter what the reason is.

                  I am not registered for any party, and the fact that I end up always voting for candidates of one party does NOT make me an official member of that party.

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      If the world were black and white then he would be a democrat. In actuality tho the new guy is a deranged and delluded self glorifying wreck of a weirdo. Read his/the incidendts wikipedia article.

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        Okay, I see here he registered independent and expressed support for candidates of both parties this cycle. Still, his relevant support for Biden/Harris and that he recently donated money to the democratic party are what are going to give this accusation legs.

        edit: recently

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          I see here he is independent and has supported both sides, meaning he is a Democrat

          Flawless logic

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      He is registered Unaffiliated in NC but did vote in the Democratic primary in March but for all we know it was a protest vote against Biden.

      We do know he was coo-coo bananas and should not have had access to firearms.

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        FFS they’re doubling down on Hannity being right. Apparently you don’t have to be a Democrat to be a Democrat.

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      He voted for Trump. Not a ton of Democrats do that. Call me crazy but while I’d assume someone who ends up attempting assassination doesn’t like the person they attempt assassinating, that doesn’t mean they are automatically a member of the opposing political party. 1/3rd of Americans are independents.

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        It’s okay, they are “no longer as certain” as they were that this Trump-voting registered independent is a Democrat like the always reliable Sean Hannity says he is.

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        He also loudly declared he regretted doing so. Both these looney tunes wanna-be assassins were all over the place with their political leanings. Blindly assuming he isn’t a democrat when things like 19 donations to the Democratic party strongly suggest otherwise is myopic.