It said so on a packaging label so it must be true. What a relief. I was afraid someone was doing genocide, but marketing has proved me wrong.
Do you think the people running the genocide are the same as the people working in the factories to support their loved ones?
At the end of the day, people will always be people, while megalomaniacal leaders are the ones using them to further their own goals.
Sodastream is located in settled territory, and therefore an active participant in the settler-colonial project.
They moved there factory out of the west bank, after heavy protest. Unless your referring to “Israel proper” as settled territory, which it is, but so is the u.s.
SodaStream is still subject to boycott by the global, Palestinian-led BDS movement for Palestinian rights. Its new factory is actively complicit in Israel’s policy of displacing the indigenous Bedouin-Palestinian citizens of Israel in the Naqab (Negev). SodaStream’s mistreatment of and discrimination against Palestinian workers is not forgotten either.
https://bdsmovement.net/news/“sodastream-still-subject-boycott”
Agreed. We should be supporting Israelis who recognize and promote that the only solution to peace is harmonious coexistence. Calling it “marketing” seems irrelevant and disingenuous, about as solid an argument as calling “peace and love hippies” fakers.
It is marketing though. It’s on the box of a commercial product, what else is it?
Given so much you know about the world comes from corporations, how do you determine what’s true and what’s a lie? Just based on your feelings which were formed by social media algorithms?
Based on videos of people being brutalized, news articles, podcasts, conversations with others. There’s no algo on Lemmy and I don’t consume any other social media.
Gives me similar vibes to a southern plantation owner saying ‘my slaves are all happy; they’ve never complained to me!’
This cotton was produced by whites and blacks working side by side in peace and harmony.
“Shit, they even sing while they work, they love it!”
What is the significance of the singing?
If this is an honest question: slaves in the US would sing songs as they toiled to help them cope with their hardship. From the slaveowners view the songs often seemed silly or full of hope, while the lyrics actually contained veiled instructions about insurrection or escape.
“Swing low sweet chariot” basically means “for the love of all that is holy please please let today be the day I finally die and end this”
it helped keep the tempo of work and make time pass faster
I think it’s a slavery reference.
Fuck soda stream, not only because there Israeli and had a factory in the occupied territories until backlash forced them out, they’re also anti-repair.
I have one and one time I pumped it a bit too much and heard a pop and it would no longer work. I opened it up and found that a piece of foil had been ruptured, and found a video online of someone replacing it by unscrewing a plastic bit and replacing the foil. I eventually stripped the screw trying to get it out only to find in the comments of the video that they glue that screw in now . They don’t sell a replacement part for it either so I eventually just had to use hot glue to seal it, which doesn’t feel safe.
The foil seems designed to pop as a safety pressure release mechanism, but it basically bricks the unit afterwards and you have to buy a new one.
LPT: go get
- a real CO2 cylinder with a CGA 320 valve (the 10lb size is plenty)
- a CGA-320 CO2 regulator
- some 1/4" ID reinforced PVC tubing
- a carbonation cap + 1/4" barb ball lock disconnect (mentioned together because they’re often sold as a set), and
- a plain old empty 2-liter soda bottle.
That’s everything you need to carbonate soda yourself without some proprietary bullshit device.
(I found the best price for the gas cylinder from a local company that resupplies restaurants etc. with soda dispensers, which is convenient because they can also refill it for you. The rest of the stuff can be found easily enough from Amazon or whatnot. I wouldn’t buy the cylinder from Amazon unless I wanted aluminum instead of steel, for no good reason.)
Works if you have space to put a 10lb CO2 cylinder
There’s also smaller 5# tanks
The paintball ones?
You have to make sure whatever you use is food grade. A paintball refill wouldn’t have to be and could contain weird oils you wouldn’t want to ingest.
they’re*
Your right. But don’t be that guy.
Yes I did it on purpose.
You’re*
Whoosh.
Nah we just think you’re a dick.
For suggesting someone not be a grammar nazi!? It doesn’t add anything to the conversation. I did the “your” thing on purpose to see if he’d do the same thing and of course he did. I’m not being a dick, I’m suggesting maybe overlook people’s little mistakes and contribute something worthwhile. But if that makes me a dick, then I’m a dick I guess.
Whoo’sh*
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought I read that their factory is actually built in occupied territory.
It’s the reason I’ve always refused to but one.
Nah the factory in the West Bank was closed about nine years ago. So you’ll be happy to know Palestinians in the West Bank have a longer commute and have to pass through a lot of security checks if they want to work for Sodastream.
So you can buy a Sodastream with a clean conscious. Unless even employing Palestinians is somehow wrong. Which people will find a way to rationalize because everyone knows that people who have a decent job are less likely to fire rockets at Israel, and we want that to continue forever, right?
conscience*
Peace it the middle east?!? We can’t have that! Throw it out!
Aww man, I like using sodastream. Is there an alternative that isn’t directly tied to an apartheid state committing genocide?
You can just get a cap that will fit on any bottle and attach to a traditional c02 tank. Added benefit that if you use this with any regularity it will cost you much less over time.
You can also get corny kegs like the other person posted but those can be pricey. You can get them cheap at restaurant auctions sometimes (I basically got mine for free but they were gross). These take up a decent amount of space but you can make a lot of stuff at once
I use a “Spärkel” carbonator. Instead of CO2 canisters, it uses packets of citric acid and baking soda to generate CO2 and uses a compressor to infuse the liquid.
Pros:
- You can either use their pre-measured packets if that’s convenient for you, or do what I do and just buy a bulk amount of both the citric acid and baking soda.
- You can carbonate pretty much any liquid. Water, wine, flat soda, mixed drinks, you name it. The sodastream will explode and cause a huge mess if you try to carbonate anything besides water.
- They don’t appear to be Israeli.
Cons:
- Because it uses a compressor, it needs to be plugged in to operate. It’s pretty loud too!
- It takes longer than a sodastream. While a sodastream is almost instant, this will take 1-3 minutes depending on the level of carbonation you desire.
Yeah I really like mine too but you got to make sure to clean out the activation chamber occasionally with warm water.
I keep wishing/wondering if there was a simpler version that could be made using baking soda and dripping in vinegar as the acid.
I feel like there is a shocking amount of improvement possible on the concept of base and acid homemade carbonation systems.
I’d assume that most other carbonators aren’t made by Sodastream 👍
Arab is the allowed word for “Palestinian”
