For information purposes, Luigi pled not guilty.

“They’re putting all of this effort and the death penalty behind one person who allegedly killed one CEO who is responsible and profiting off of the death of thousands upon thousands of sick people and bringing people into financial ruin as well as death,” said Tilly, a Mangione supporter wearing a lime green jacket and light green sunglasses. “They do not put this same effort behind, say, school shooters or people who shoot up concerts.”

“It shows that the state has more care for the uber-wealthy and the CEOs that are profiting off of people’s death and pain than they do for the people.”

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    Surprisingly solid article especially given CNN’s initial propagandistic coverage of the Luigi story. They actually quote people they interviewed, they seemed to cherry pick a representative sample rather than a few crazy people. I don’t think this really says much about CNN though, but it is uplifting in the sense that the social narrative around Luigi is becoming so solidified that even mainstream media can’t dance around it without looking totally idiotic. I suspect the crowd also had very clear talking points in mind that made it difficult to find a bad look to cherry pick. Very nice to see such a clear message here, especially on strong talking points like the clearly unequal treatment vs school shooters, and best of all - this article even mentions the line of reasoning that the CEO was effectively a mass murderer. Surely a more contentious angle, but definitely one with some validity to it. Very pleased to see that make it into this article.

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    “They do not put this same effort behind, say, school shooters or people who shoot up concerts.”

    I think the real question here is: how many lives were saved by insurance companies temporarily being scared into not ludicrously rejecting valid claims?

    If it’s more than one, then Mangione played the trolley problem in real life and decided an outcome.

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    UnitedHealthcare has defended the company and Thompson. In a December statement, UnitedHealthcare said “highly inaccurate and grossly misleading information has been circulated about our company’s treatment of insurance claims” and that it “approves and pays about 90% of medical claims upon submission.”

    Having worked with insurance companies, this is a PR metric. Volume of claims in no way equals cost of claims. If the denied 10% are suspiciously on line with the procedures that contain the top 40% of costs, there is a problem.

    People don’t care if you covered a generic version of a bottle of Tylenol, they care if you bankrupt them or leave them with no hope.

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    It’s so clear how much more the state cares about the rich. They spent millions searching for him when the same week there were multiple other people killed in NYC that didn’t even receive news coverage let alone a multi-million dollar manhunt.

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      Everyone who agrees should click and read vs just checking the synopsis, letting CNN know this is the case.

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        Done, and this particular sentence stood out: “Looming over it all is a belief that The Elites are cracking down on The People to uphold The System.” I thought it was surprisingly candid for a CNN piece.

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    Hi, Mod here. Please update the post to match the article title in order to avoid removal. You can include any relevant context or commentary in your description or comments.

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    Ugh, I hate that they put the stupidest arguments front and center in stories like this.

    “They do not put this same effort behind, say, school shooters or people who shoot up concerts.”

    Yeah no shit, because mass shooters generally don’t survive their attacks. The similarities between a mass shooting and the shooting of one person are few and far between - the motive, execution, and follow-up investigations are wildly different in each scenario.

    I get wanting to support Luigi, but disingenuous comparisons like that aren’t doing him any favors.

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      When’s the last time a school shooter (that made it to trial, obviously), got slapped with terrorism charges, had the prosecution seek the death penalty, or get prevented from accessing their family/lawyers for extended periods?

      I agree, there are few similarities between the two crimes. I would say shooting up a building full of innocent children, particularly when death is involved, is a significantly worse crime than killing a single man. Yet the sought punishments are wildly disproportionate in the opposite direction.

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        To give a huge benefit of the doubt, we haven’t had fascism times for these school shooters.

        If a shooter makes it to arrangement today, I would expect fascism to make an example out of them as well and slap terrorism charges.

        The analogy, while clumsy, is still accurate: the rules for us do not apply to the rich and powerful.

        For fuck sakes we have a convicted felon as president and at his sentencing the judge said, “Uh, woopsie! Guess the jury was wrong. Go about your life, dear rich citizen.”

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          but we have had a school shooting recently, Trump said “these things happen” about it.

          that’s it. that’s what the fascists say about us dying. they ONLY care about the rich.

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          Are you sure they won’t just be offered a job at the whitehouse? All they’ve gotta do is say they love Trump and he’ll sign a pardon after all.