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  • Szymon@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    Come talk to me when either party has an ethical leg to stand on. Nobody has a high horse to stand on, and until you admit that your side is just as shit, nothing will change and you’ll continue propegating single issue policies that degrade democracy for everyone.

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      9 months ago

      We have two options in our political system…

      Not being able to criticize the better party because the other is even worse just results in a race to the bottom.

      Something that’s been happening for decades and instead of slowing down is just happening more and more.

      When the main reason to vote D is “they’re not Republicans” the Dem party continually acting more like Republicans every year ain’t going to help Dems get elected.

      Nobody has a high horse to stand on, and until you admit that your side is just as shit, nothing will change

      I’m literally complaining about “my side”…

      And you’re telling me I can’t because Republicans are worse…

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        9 months ago

        I don’t even know why I try with folks like that. These idiots are as thoughtless as Trump voters, but get their knickers in a twist when you point out they’re arguing for the electorate to “be quiet and not ask questions” as if that’s not what Trump asks of his voters.

        They immediately jump to accusing you of being a plant, as if that’s not as conspiratorial bullshit as Trump voters take part in. They just know, right?? /s Give me a break, fucking whiney babies who can’t handle a different opinion.

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          9 months ago

          I’ve blocked a shit ton of them…

          The problem is once you do that, you start getting replies from accounts that have sat inactive for months and lots of your comments get multiple down votes immediately.

          Because some apps make it very easy to switch between multiple accounts. And they really really really think people talking about this stuff is worse than the problem.

          They want us to bury our heads in the sand and never criticize anyone with a D by their name.

          Which is probably the worst thing we could do in a two party system.

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            9 months ago

            I’m a masochist. I don’t block them.

            Because their arguments are really easy to dismantle, even if they’re too fucking stupid to understand that.

            The problem is once you do that, you start getting replies from accounts that have sat inactive for months and lots of your comments get multiple down votes immediately.

            They really don’t see how they act just as badly as Trump voters, do they? Is it “the ends justify the means” or are they just stupid or are they paid to act this stupid? It’s not like Correct the Record ever went away and it’s still totally legal to hire masses of people to post paid political speech online in the US, because nobody is making laws to make these people have to admit they’re being paid, kind of like advertisements have to. No, they flood the zone with this bullshit just as badly as the right-wing does and then cry big fat loser baby tears when it doesn’t work out.

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              9 months ago

              Blocking doesn’t really work on Lemmy like it does on other platforms. You can mute people but it doesn’t limit them from interacting with you.

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      9 months ago

      How about you stop assuming what people’s political affiliations are simply because they have the audacity to question the people they plan on voting for?

      Imagine if Trump and the RNC did this in a state that routinely votes for a more progressive candidate in their primary…

      I would think this line alone shows that this person doesn’t think highly of conservatives, yet here you are making the crass assumption that this must mean they’re Republican and “continue propegating single issue policies that degrade democracy for everyone.”

      Can you get your fucking head out of your ass for a minute and instead of making an assumption try talking to someone to find out?

      Because I agree with everything they said, but I also plan on voting Democrat down-ticket, because Republicans are nuts, and the only people who run Independent around here are trying to hide that they’re actually Republican.

      You people really sound like fucking jackasses when you accuse likely democrat voters of being fucking Republican/Russian plants because they have the audacity to want more and better from Democrats.

      How about you come with an actual rebuttal instead of acting like “It doesn’t matter because you’re clearly Republican!!!”

      Like, give me a fucking break, you don’t know that, you’re just pulling that out of your ass based on how you feel. Grow the fuck up, this kind of attitude is no better than the Trumpers. Do you want us to be compliant, non-questioning voters like them? Isn’t the primary season when we’re supposed to make our desires for our political representatives known?

      Because it sure as shit seems like all you people want us to do is be exactly like Trump voters and sit down, shut up, and not ask questions of Dear Leader.

      I don’t know how to break this to you, but we want an informed, involved, and educated electorate, and all you fucking idiots demanding that we instead be cowed, quiet, fucking idiots who never question anything just like Trump voters are missing the fucking point, I’d wager.

      Do you want an informed, involved, educated electorate? Or do you want them to “Shut Up” because they had the audacity to critique “Your Team” because you can’t be fucked to think for yourself?

      Grow up. Fucking children. Exactly like Trump voters.