We Asked A.I. to Create the Joker. It Generated a Copyrighted Image.::Artists and researchers are exposing copyrighted material hidden within A.I. tools, raising fresh legal questions.

  • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 months ago

    By that logic I am also storing that image in my dataset, because I know and remember this exact image. I can reproduce it from memory too.

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      9 months ago

      You ever try to do a public performance of a copyrighted work, like “Happy Birthday to You” ??

      You get sued. Even if its from memory. Welcome to copyright law. There’s a reason why every restaraunt had to make up a new “Happy Happy Birthday, from the Birthday Crew” song.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, but until I perform it without a license for profit, I don’t get sued.

        So it’s up to the user to make sure that if any material that is generated is copyright infringing, it should not be used.

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          9 months ago

          Otakon anime music videos have no profits but they explicitly get a license from RIAA to play songs in public.

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            9 months ago

            So? I’m not saying those are fair terms, I would also prefer if that were not the case, but AI isn’t performing in public any more having a guitar with you in public is ripping off Metallica.

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              9 months ago

              You don’t need to perform “for profit” to get sued for copyright infringement.

              but AI isn’t performing in public any more having a guitar with you in public is ripping off Metallica.

              Is the Joker image in that article derivative or substantially similar to a copyrighted work? Is the query available to anyone who uses Midjourney? Are the training weights being copied from server-to-server behind the scenes? Were the training weights derived from copyrighted data?

              • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                9 months ago

                Yes and none of that matters in the slightest. By that logic the Library of Babel is also copyright infringement. By that logic my memory of the movie is copyright infringing even if I don’t do anything with it.

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                  9 months ago

                  You’re taking a fictional work and trying to apply real world laws to it?

                  Copyright assumes that Library of Babel would take up so much space as it’d be impossible to create.

                  Which is true. Every possible combination of letters, spaces, and characters would never fit on anything in today’s universe (be it a 24 TB Hard Drive, or even a collection of thousands of them).

                  Secondly: any computer-generated work is automatically non-copyrighted as per US Law.

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        9 months ago

        What’s the difference? I could be just some code in the simulation

        Edit: downvoted by people who unironically stan Ted Kaczynski