Yesterday my old Fairphone 3 decided to go for a dive on the kitchen sink and I apparently didn’t give it enough time to dry it out. The display now won’t turn on. I went to their website to look for a replacement but they seem to be “out of stock”. So much for repairability…
I’m a bit disappointed with the Fairphone overall (that would be for a separate discussion), and I’m looking for other alternatives.
I don’t really need a powerful device, but I’d really like to have a headphone jack, a SD slot and above all the ability to install alternative ROMs. I was using /e/OS (aka MurenaOS) but I’d be fine with anything that lets me use F-Droid and micro-g instead of Google Play Services.
I know that there are “comparison websites” out there that can filter devices by features and/or price, and I know that Murena and LineageOS sites provide a list of the devices they support, but I haven’t found any suite that can include both. Does such a site exist?
I think in general you can expect popular phones to have a higher chance of getting custom ROM support. The Google Pixel range would be a safe bet. Most custom ROMs maintain a list with devices they are supporting or planning to support, but as far as I know there is no site combining these information.
Don’t know that kind of site but i would bet Google Pixel phones have one of the best support from custom roms including Lineage, Murena, Calyx, Graphene and whatnot
But the Pixel phones do not have headphone jacks nor sd card slots…
Neither do most phones these days unfortunately. The ones that do have them are not mainstream phones, which means the chances of a fully working custom ROM for them is next to zero.
Xperia 1 still have audio jack and SD card slot. Banging camera as well. You just need to import them if you’re in Canada which is a real bummer.
The whole Motorola G have both, and there are some Motorola devices with LineageOS. I guess I need to find any developer mentioning interest in working with the newer models and buy accordingly (and donate what I can to keep them going)
Pixel 4a models do have headphone jack if you don’t need the newest models, unfortunately no sd card slot still
I’d be rocking a pixel phone if it weren’t for this. really sad tbh
Ifixit has FP3 displays in stock in my region.
As for a replacement… I don’t think there’s much devices that will fit the bill unfortunately. Closest thing is going to be a Pixel device IMO
I personally use a FP3 too, and can’t see a device that I can upgrade to whenever my FP3 kicks the bucket. I came from a Galaxy S5 and this was the only device available that offered all the same features, except the heart rate sensor, OLED display and ANT+ support (for connecting to Garmin fitness sensors Etc).
Fairphone does make some really odd decisions, like none of their new devices having a headphone jack despite there being a DAC output still available on the mainboard. The main saving grace is that they know how to make a device you can actually own, and historically they were proactive in getting their OEM to implement user requested features into the OS.
Nah, I feel cheated by Fairphone. With the whole FP3 and FP3+, they were leading with the idea that they have settled on the form factor, and then just evolve the separate mainboard/camera/display modules independently. With the FP4, they scraped all that and just chased whatever was trendy at the time and cranked the “but the environment” marketing.
I paid the Fairphone premium knowing that the specs were crap, but that at least in the future I wouldn’t need to upgrade by buying a whole phone. Promising to have software upgrades for 8 years is nice, but it’s worthless if you can not upgrade any of the hardware in the meantime.
For now I will just go buy a “budget premium” Android and pray that the people from frame.work decide to extend into phones as well in the next 2-3 years.
Nah, I feel cheated by Fairphone. With the whole FP3 and FP3+, they were leading with the idea that they have settled on the form factor, and then just evolve the separate mainboard/camera/display modules independently
Fair enough. From my perspective it was ambitious thinking anyway: I was actually curious as to how Fairphone got things like the replaceable camera to work (had a peek in their git, it kind of works: they init the old driver and try to turn on the camera, if it returns an error then they load the new driver). The truth is though, a 100% truly modular phone, in the same way a PC is modular, cannot happen without some serious standardization.
Unlike webcams that use USB internally, and laptop displays that use standardized connectors and protocols (like eDP), mobile phones are almost entirely proprietary devices with a finite hardware-limited range of peripherals they can support at a low level.
Qualcomm in particular doesn’t care about backwards compatibility when it comes to their SoCs, meaning the MIPI interface for the phone display on one SoC may be moved to completely different pins on another Qualcomm SoC, or may use a completely different number of pins. The same applies to the camera interface, although the main concern there will be the SoC, as it ultimately determines what resolutions/framerates etc you can achieve within the limits of the camera module.
Those are both solvable problems though. The real issue in my eyes is the lack of a proper BIOS to build a device tree and the other stuff that an OS build would need to be device-agnostic, like closed-source blobs for fingerprint scanners, display brightness control etc. These essentially limit mobile ARM devices to OSes made specifically for that hardware, preventing drop-in upgrades for cameras and the like from being a thing - unless you take Fairphone’s approach and handle it in user space
With the FP4, they scraped all that and just chased whatever was trendy at the time and cranked the “but the environment” marketing.
I agree. To me most of the FP4 marketing material felt a bit like greenwashing, and the excuse for the headphone jack removal was pretty poor considering they also released completely unrepairable earbuds shortly after. The materials used may be fairer, but the pros end there as far as the buds are is concerned.
The FP5 marketing material is not as bad in that regard I think, and the Fairbuds XL should have been what they released originally compared to the unrepairable buds cash grab, even if they offered it discounted (IIRC) with the FP4.
I paid the Fairphone premium knowing that the specs were crap, but that at least in the future I wouldn’t need to upgrade by buying a whole phone. Promising to have software upgrades for 8 years is nice, but it’s worthless if you can not upgrade any of the hardware in the meantime.
For now I will just go buy a “budget premium” Android and pray that the people from frame.work decide to extend into phones as well in the next 2-3 years.
True. I feel unless the software updates are optimized to take advantage of the phone’s hardware as it ages, the performance will fall off a cliff, especially as consumables like the EMMC storage uses up its write cycles, and takes longer to identify suitable areas of its NAND to use for operations.
A Framework phone would also be something I’m interested in, especially if it follows the likes of Project Ara’s design
I’m someone who has used many custom roms so I’ll share with you my experience.
- lineage os is one of the best roms out there. Stable, fast, light, good battery life.
- pixel experience+ is a good ROM too (I only suggest using the + version with all the extra features) but it has many google stuff and many of them can’t easily uninstall so I guess there is that. Battery life is good, not great
- Dot os was one of my favorite roms, light with ton of customisation, it’s not really alive anymore though, you can check it out though.
- evolutionx was also a good one, very customisable and a pixel ROM too but the battery wasn’t that great.
- Crdroid was also very good, light and with a lot of customisability, I liked it a lot.
- Resurrection remix was okay but I found the available customizations overwhelming
