• jul@feddit.de
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    honestly it’s not really good

    *for you it isn’t

    the search sucks

    what’s wrong with it? works fine for me

    no offline mode on desktop

    why would you need it? it’s supported on phones, just listen via phone?

    no official Linux client

    Neither does apple music. Tidal are open sourcing their SDK though

    an incomplete catalog

    *for you. for me there isn’t

    It’s not worth it, even if they are the least bad for paying artists

    Again, for you. On paper, tidal is the better option and I rather support artists than some questionable monopolistic corporation

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      8 months ago

      This is perhaps the stupidest response I’ve read on Lemmy for a while. Nobody is entitled to an opinion these days.

      Im expecting a response, quoting each paragraph I wrote, with only ‘For you’ as the text.

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        I don’t agree. He wrote it like it was absolute, whereas it’s a personal opinion. Like you stated correctly.

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          well it’s neither nor. I’m also pissed that there’s no Linux client, and they didn’t even try to make their windows client run in wine. so it’s not just one person’s opinion as i hereby confirm.

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            Not saying it’s not a valid point against tidal overall. I would also enjoy me a linux native client. However I don’t see why this is a valid point against tidal and for apple music.

            Having said that. I found a bug in their windows client and the devs are very much receptive for feedback. Maybe in the future when more people use Linux they’ll come around and make one. Or the community will with tidal’s open source SDK.

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              Why do you keep mentioning apple music? OP never made any comparison to it or any other streaming service. He just communicated why the service didn’t work for him and you felt compelled to inform him that how he feels is his opinion?

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                You’re missing the point I’m trying to make. He’s stating his opinion, which his absolutely valid for him, but concludes that in general it’s not worth it and that it is not good. The only thing I did was mark his opinions, also mark my opinions, but conclude that in the general case there’s no better option. I only wanted to draw attention to this style of rhetoric which I don’t like as a discussion culture.

                Btw I also don’t like the ad homimen argument e.g. “stupidest comment I’ve seen” etc. That’s not how a respectful discussion should be.

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      Damn, you’re shilling hard!

      I don’t want to use my phone for basic features like the offline mode, I’m not always connected to the internet on my laptop, that’s it.

      I don’t care about Apple music, and almost every streaming platform provides some kind of SDK. It doesn’t change the fact that I don’t have a Linux client, and probably never will (or at least feature-complete) because they partly use Dolby Atmos, which is a closed-source licensed format.

      And no, even on paper, tidal’s not the better option to support artists. Buy tracks on Bandcamp, buy merch and vinyl directly from artists…

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        I’m talking in the context of streaming services here…

        Maybe you’re right with the Linux client part, but I don’t know any other streaming service that does provide one? At least Spotify and Apple Music don’t. Does it make them also not worth it? I would disagree.

        I never said tidal is the best app to support artists. In that regard there is a better option, just give them your money for free. I meant as a streaming service, quality wise and in terms of paying artists, there are no better options.

        What I didn’t like about your OP was the fact that you laid your personal opinions out and then concluded that tidal is not worth it. Doesn’t make me a shill when I answer with counterpoints.

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            Point taken, guess I remembered it wrong. But if you take a look at the arch wiki, they say that your mentioned client is actually not official.

            This article is mainly about the semi-official, proprietary Spotify for Linux client, which is developed by Spotify’s engineers in their spare time and not actively supported by Spotify.

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          Your counterpoints were all basically just “your use case is different than mine therefore you are wrong”.

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        What do you mean? I’m interested in his opinion and he wrote it like it was an absolute fact. Poor way to start a discussion imo.

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          That’s his opinion, that’s the fact for him. How obtuse do you have to be to waste your time like that?

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            I’m not arguing against his personal opinions, I’m arguing against his conclusion that tidal is not worth it (for everyone,because that is how it is worded).

            How is it of your concern how I spend my time?

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      8 months ago

      no offline mode on desktop

      why would you need it? it’s supported on phones, just listen via phone?

      So you’re saying this use case works for you??