• ÞlubbaÐubba@lemm.ee
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      6 months ago

      You could argue that the perceptions of TikTok as a CCP tool of propaganda is an indirect foreign aid to Taiwan

      God knows how much Russia tries to use social media to turn sentiments against Ukraine

      Ultimately I think short form content encouraging platforms at large need to go down anyways so sucker punching the current biggest offender is right by me!

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        The only thing I’ve seen about Taiwan on TikTok are videos talking about just how bad China’s casualty rate would be if they tried anything.

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        Facebook literally conducted social experiments on a million of their own users and didn’t even get a slap on the wrist. Banning TikTok had absolutely nothing to do with security or stopping propaganda. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a gullible fool.

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        6 months ago

        Short form content platforms aren’t going anywhere, Instagram Reels and YouTube shorts are just a carbon copy of tiktok. No problems with them, of course, because they’re American.

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          I was against banning TikTok despite never having even used it. I still think the fact that’s it’s CCP controlled is a valid point so I get why this doesn’t affect reels or shorts but I still think it’s naive to ignore them. They’re bad for mental health and political division the exact same way TikTok is and just like TikTok there are foreign countries using them for propaganda purposes just aswell.

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            The propaganda really isn’t anything different or special though. I’ve been using TikTok for years and it’s no different than any other social media. You interact with what you’re interested in and so you see what you want to see. Just like lemmy and reddit and whatever else. I’d argue that TikTok is a bit better for not having US corporate fingers all over it tbh.

            If propaganda is valid criticism of the way our government is behaving by our own citizens on their own channels then I guess you could call it that lol. But banning TikTok is already proof that our government is full of fuckery and not working for us. They tried twice before this and the people unequivocally said NO both times. So they shoved it through in a way that makes it more difficult for anyone to hold them accountable. Because of course they did. Even people that don’t like the idea of TikTok should be more like you and against this obvious power grab. They don’t want to protect us. They want our data back in the US markets and our eyes back on our own homegrown propaganda that they can control. It really is outrageous if you consider it at anything more than surface level.

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          6 months ago

          If only TikTok were paying ALEC and using their cycle-of-rage algorithm to drive gamers to Ben Shapiro. Gotta pay protection money to the mob if you want a business in this neighborhood.

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      6 months ago

      Yup and that is the same issue with elections. Candidate A wants to ban private jets and burn tyres, candidate B wants to legalise child labour. A wins then claims they have a mandate to burn tyres

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        6 months ago

        And they also don’t ban the private jets. I’d really love to have national legislation that a shithead can be recalled from any position if enough citizens demand it.

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      It was attached because they already tried twice with it as a single issue and lost both times. They forced it through to get their way despite a clear message from the people that they didn’t want this. It’s so laughably anti-democratic but a lot of the older folks here don’t care because it fits their bias of TikTok bad. At the end of the day democracy gets shit on once again because small minded people are easily manipulated into hating something they don’t understand.