• DanseMacabre@lemmy.world
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    Threads being in the Fediverse is a plus for me, not a negative. It means I could follow regular people and friends who would never in a million years join places like Mastodon or Lemmy while I still get the benefits of being on those platforms, all while being shielded from Meta’s ads and data harvesting. The only issue is I don’t actually believe Zuck will go through with it. They’ll either never federate or severely limit it if they do.

    Mastodon themselves have put out a post outlining how this will affect them (it won’t) and how EEE is not a threat. If Meta does eventually opt out of ActivityPub then cool. It’s not like that’s why Mastodon users were there in the first place.

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      Mastodon the non-profit is all but compromised.

      The guy in charge is essentially in cahoots with Meta and is under an NDA from them.

      It doesn’t take more than 2 seconds of thinking to see how empty the words are that Mastodon is not at risk.

      1. Threads federates with Mastodon instances
      2. Threads uses its massive engineering resources to implement proprietary functionality that’s incompatible with Mastodon instances
      3. A non-trivial number of Mastodon users jump over to Threads, this is the first wave of people that leave Mastodon
      4. Threads drops support for federation and silos itself off
      5. The majority of the remainder of people on Mastodon jump over to Threads because they want to be able to continue to interact with the people that jumped over to Threads and/or because they want to be able to continue to interact with normies now that they’re used to that
      6. Mastodon is effectively dead, safe for a select few that stick to their guns

      3 and 5 will happen in a cascading manner, the more people switch to Threads, the more others will also want to switch.

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      Embrace, extend and destroy is a known, well established, concept. Microsoft was quite open about how this is to be done.

      It has already happened to established decentralised networks. See here!

      Maybe it won’t happen to Mastodon, maybe they have the masterminds who can counter it. But it is imo pretty clear that this is what Meta plans to do.

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        Read their privacy policy. They already admitted they will scrape info from 3rd party users/communities which interact with their users.

        This is not a good thing.

      • areyouevenreal@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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        The post has been put out by the people that made Mastodon. Why should anyone trust you over them when you provide 0 arguments against them.

        Embrace Extend Extinguish was always a Microsoft strategy and one they have been forced to abandon over the years. Their attitude changed towards open source because it doesn’t work! I think you might be the one who is lacking in knowledge or “education” here.

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          Open source doesnt work? Would love to see a source on that one alone. Almost sounds like you have an agenda to sell.

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            I think you misinterpreted what they said. They meant “Their attitude changed towards open source because [Embrace, Extend, Extinguish] doesn’t work”

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                I had to read it twice because I misinterpreted it the same way.

                Their attitude changed towards open source because it doesn’t work!

                That “it” could be interpreted either as ‘open source’ or ‘EEE’ from the previous sentence.

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                The sentence itself is a little ambiguous but it’s nothing major, it’s easy enough to get the message from context

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            What’s your question? Microsoft invented and then abandoned the EEE strategy because the strategy dosen’t work! Open source never went away no matter what they did.