I used to browse Reddit 90+% of the time from my phone through the RiF app, so after June 30th, here is what I did and what I recommend as a starter pack for others in the same situation:
- Create account on lemmy.world, so the browser part is covered
- Search for the information on which app provides the closest to the RiF (Apollo, etc.) experience
- Instal Liftoff and be happy - it is just like RiF :-) (for Apollo and others, it could be different - find your own favorite!)
- Dial back dramatically on using Reddit at all. I only load 4 subs in my phone’s browser, because I did not find the Lemmy / Fediverse alternatives yet
- Constantly look for the communities to replace the subreddits you are still visiting
- OPTIONAL - once or twice a week, look at /r/pics and /r/videos and laugh at the creativity of the still ongoing protest :-)
So that is where I am right now, posting this via the web browser on the lemmy.world site, by pressing “create a post”. Seems easy enough for now, but I find it a bit confusing that other people can post from Mastodon and other Lemmy instances… Do they see the same communities I do? Do I see all Lemmy communities if I use lemmy.world…? So many questions, but it’s exciting to explore this brand new structure.
Even after reading the Fediverse and ActivityPub articles on Wikipedia my head is spinning, and I don’t really understand how everything fits / works together, but here I am! An ex(-ish) Redditor after the APIcalypse, looking for cool new communities, and excited about the future that the Fediverse can bring!
(I’m willing to learn! Someone please link me a FAQ where I can find the answers to my questions :-) )
Welcome to Lemmy. Here is your free Lemming:
Go wild!
Oh yes I quite like this actually.
LOL, thanks!
Oh shit it’s Lemmiwinks
Lemmy is a piece of software. Lemmy software is a link aggregator - same as reddit.
So you’re signed up to a server that’s installed an instance (a copy) of the Lemmy software. Other servers also run the Lemmy software making them also instances of Lemmy. As well as you being able to talk to users in Communities (think subreddits) on the lemmy.world server, you can talk to users in Communities on other Lemmy instances. For example, lemmy.ml, feddit.de etc etc
KBin is also link aggregator software, just like Lemmy and Reddit. Same things apply there, same software on multiple servers, all able to talk with each other.
Mastodon software is a microblogging service - same as Twitter (and Threads). Just like instances of Lemmy, instances of Mastodon can talk to each other. So a user on mastodon.world can talk to (for example) a user on kolektiva.social which is also running the Mastodon software.
There’s also Pixelfed (Instagram), PeerTube (YouTube), Friendica (Facebook), Plume (WordPress) and a large variety of others.
Now, as well as all these different types of software (Lemmy, Mastodon, KBin, PixelFed etc) being able to talk to other instances of the same software on other servers, because they are all underpinned by a single method of passing information called ActivityPub, each type of software can also talk to each other - so you as a Lemmy user can also see posts and comments from a user on a server running an instance of Mastodon (or Plume, or PixedlFed, or…you get the idea). All these things are loosely joined together making a joined (federated) universe - the fediverse.
I thought I was getting the hang of this until I read your comment and learned about all these cool technologies in the fediverse. Thank you, I found this super helpful.
Do I need to setup accounts for these other ones like mastodon, pixelfed?
No problem :)
It really depends on your intention…if you intend to just interact with (for example) Mastodon users that appear occasionally in the Lemmy communities you’re a part of then there’s no need at all. Or if you want to communicate occasionally with a Mastodon (or any other type of software) user then you could use their Mastodon handle to do so - for example go to the Search box on your Lemmy instance and type in @[email protected] (which is the ‘official’ Mastodon account on the mastodon.social server but it can be any handle) wait for a few seconds (or longer depending on the speed of the server) and the user account with the ability to private message them appears. There are currently some issues but it used to be possible to post directly to a Mastodon user’s timeline from Lemmy. Mastodon users can post to Lemmy. It’s worth remembering that Mastodon is a LOT more mature as a product than Lemmy, which is still in its infancy.
For now, at least, Id say if you’re looking to spend a lot of time on each different software type then register an account at an instance of it. The integration will come, but the fediverse is young, Lemmy in particular is very young so it’ll take time.
I really appreciate this comment. So many of us are still trying to learn exactly how this all works, so it’s very helpful for people like me. Here’s a cool wallpaper
This is how my poor grandmother must feel all the time. I’m slowly trying to understand it all. I’ve got most of lemmy figured out so far I think. But there’s a lot more to this.
Just abstract it in your mind - Lemmy is software. Microsoft Word is software. Mastodon is software. Photoshop is software.
You can install copies of all of these pieces of software on different machines. Now just imagine if all the various copies (instances) of MS Word installed on peoples PC’s around the world were able to talk to each other. And so were all the copies of Photoshop. And then further imagine that all the copies of Word were also able to talk to all the copies of Photoshop.
That’s all the fediverse is. Multiple copies of the same software able to talk to each other and also able to talk to multiple copies of different software.
Have a look here, put a tick in the ‘ActivityPub’ protocol tickbox and you’ll see the software that can (theoretically) talk to each other.
I would discourage telling everyone to go to Lemmy.World as not only could it overload the server, the centralisation problem starts all over again.
The vast majority of instances are federated to all the big ones anyway, so I would recommend looking around to see if there are any instances that better fit your wants before going straight Lemmy.World. You won’t lose anything from it, and you’ll be supporting the wider fediverse.
Spread out communities makes it easier to avoid a single admin deciding to go crazy. Like imagine if Reddit had been composed of different instances, so people were able to just pack up and leave the instance he was on and not lose all their communities by quitting the Spez reddit instance. So you make a good point. Maybe over time there will be topic based instances popping up like an instance for entertainment, and an instance for games. Which would be pretty cool over a swiss army knife do everything approach instance where everyone starts migrating communities too because it has the largest user base.
This already is a thing, see StarTrek.website, Lemmy.film and LemmyNSFW.com for just a few examples.
The admin paranoia is tough because it goes both ways. Yes, big instances mean huge losses if they get abandoned, defederated or the admin loses his mind. At the same time, smaller instances are often run by regular people who can’t or aren’t interested in running an instance long term, or don’t have the ability to have 99%+ uptime.
At the moment momentum is important to reach critical mass of users and it’s just not feasible to tell most Reddit refugees “Okay so go to look up the handful of instances closest to your geographical location. Research their uptime, the reliability of their admins, their funding, their rules and whether they’re defederated from any major instances. Just pick the one that best suits your needs! Oh, also remember to use [email protected] (don’t forget the exclamation point!) when searching for communities because many small instances haven’t connected yet to everyone. This also means these subs will appear empty at first because old content doesn’t get propagated but don’t worry about it. Oh and also sorting topics by Hot is bugged on small instances currently.”
We’re kind of starting to get that, we just need to encourage people to spread out from lemmy.world and make communities in these other instances. We’ve got lemmy.film that’s TV and film focused, pathfinder.social and another ttrpg instance, star trek has an instance, the solar punk instance, there’s a couple tech, privacy, and hacker instances. I’d also like to see more local area communities in instances like midwest.social instead of all on lemmy.world, too.
Optional extra point to add on to #5: if the community that needs to replace a subreddit isn’t here yet, MAKE IT. And advertise it, so it can get popular. Be the change you want to see!
This is something I need to get into my head because I’m shy on the idea of being the one to make communities.
For apollo: use https://wefwef.app, it’s nearly identical.
I’m not sure if I’m just technologically challenged, but I can’t seem to find a way to log into wefwef from a smaller instance. Does it only support the big four?
//edit: Turns out you can only pop in as a guest from the bigger instances. You can log in to any instance, and I’m just dumb.
Plus Memmy is out on the App Store! Doesn’t help OP of course.
The speed at which all apps are updated is insane! Not only wefwef.app but also Memmy. The community really wants this project to succeed.
Newbie here and apologies if these are FAQs but just want one line answers
What’s an instance?
What’s a community?
What are federations?
Whats the difference between all these?
What’s mastodon?
What’s Kbin?
What’s ActivityPub?
Just jargon I’m trying to get my head around, I’m still confused on signing up to different communities?! I guess and yeah… a bit lost I suppose. If there are FAQs to all this please direct me to them, thanks!
I’ll give it a try, though I’m new here too:
What’s an instance? -> A server on which you can register your account
What’s a community? -> same as a subreddit
What are federations? -> Information exchange between servers
What’s mastodon? -> Twitter alternative. As lemmy is to reddit
What’s Kbin? -> Similar to lemmy, but kbin can interact better with Mastodon
What’s ActivityPub? -> the protocol used within the fediverse
I haven’t found anything like Joey, but I like liftoff a lot
Connect is OK but I don’t like comment threads having the color line extended the whole way down. I also don’t like connects font size options. Too big or too small.
I also don’t care for Connect’s comment option bar between comments. Too spread out
Font size options are a big miss on most reddit apps
Joey! Underrated
I switched to it after I got a new phone and Sync pro didn’t move over properly. Really grew to love it
Hmm I feel like I’ve seen this before 🤔
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