A tiny, low-priced electric car called the Seagull has American automakers and politicians trembling.

The car, launched last year by Chinese automaker BYD, sells for around $12,000 in China, but drives well and is put together with craftsmanship that rivals U.S.-made electric vehicles that cost three times as much. A shorter-range version costs under $10,000.

Tariffs on imported Chinese vehicles probably will keep the Seagull away from America’s shores for now, and it likely would sell for more than 12 grand if imported.

But the rapid emergence of low-priced EVs from China could shake up the global auto industry in ways not seen since Japanese makers exploded on the scene during the oil crises of the 1970s. BYD, which stands for “Build Your Dreams,” could be a nightmare for the U.S. auto industry.

“Any car company that’s not paying attention to them as a competitor is going to be lost when they hit their market,” said Sam Fiorani, a vice president at AutoForecast Solutions near Philadelphia. “BYD’s entry into the U.S. market isn’t an if. It’s a when.”

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    I don’t see a problem here. If the US auto makers are so worried, they should buy a few of them, copy their secrets, and sell them at a marked down price.
    Turnabout is fair play, after all.

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      They’d prefer to sell you a giant SUV or truck with massive profit margins and so they can continue to flout emissions standards.

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        Don’t forget our big three are just chomping at the bit to get in on the subscription model. Oh, you want ‘good’ brakes, well that’s $19.99/month. And there’s no ‘secrets’ to the chinese cars, I am willing to bet that they are just selling them at a loss. It’s not like they have to report real earnings to anyone.

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          I saw an article somewhere on lemmy recently that had some commentary from an American tear-down r&d type shop that said they think BYD makes a small profit on them

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            Very interesting. But the cynic in me says that even if we could tear it down and learn from it, we would manage to negate the savings with other costs. If they are making a profit, even if it’s tiny, that would still negate the tin foil hat people from being able to say they are just using them in infiltrate our nation with their spying and devious ways. Well one would think, but tin foil hat people will find a way to work around that, because what’s the best way to hide that you are infiltrating our nation then making it look like you are making a tiny profit. (Taps forehead…)

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          Right, but it’s easier to continue to flout those standards than to build a high quality and affordable EV, with comparable profit margins. And the marketing is easier (“You’re not a real man without this giant truck!”).

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            They are a threat when they’re sold well below cost due to the Chinese government’s massive subsidies which make it impossible for any other non-Chinese manufacturer in the world to compete with them.

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                Yeah just like they want cheap products when Walmart comes to town and before too long the local economy is in the crapper as all the town’s revenue gets funneled to Arkansas.

                What you’re advocating for is a race to the bottom just so you can buy one (maybe two!) new car(s) instead of an affordable used car like most people do. Let China sell their cars here with the same subsidies that every other company qualifies for on a level playing field.

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          Buyers do not want them, at least not anymore

          They’ve been saying that axing the small sedan was to put money into EV. Seems they lied to pocket it, but we get nothing because free market capitalism is bullshit.

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            That article simply states the sales of the Dodge Ram and Ford F150 were down last quarter and makes no mention of any other segment or manufacturer. Dodge hasn’t made a small sedan since 2016 and Ford hasn’t made one since 2020

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      The problem is the companies in China are backed by government funding that allows them to operate at a loss. To be clear, no governments should be spending public funds on propping up automotive companies. It’s a move to try and manipulate the market.

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        The problem is the companies in China are backed by government funding that allows them to operate at a loss.

        So are the Big Three, every time they fail to see what’s in front of their noses and get into trouble.

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          And they are setup for another fail right now, nothing but suvs on their lots and realistically gas has nowhere to go but up again.

          Should’ve let them fall last time instead of the big bailouts.

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        If that were actually the case wouldn’t we want them sold here at a loss so we could drain resources from the Chinese government.

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      Someone has to pay for the R&D to make EV’s possible. So far, that’s not BYD. It’s been US and European countries.