• BeardyGrumps@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What have google brought new to the market before killing it before it gains momentum? My prediction is for them to fall first out of the big tech companies.

    In A.I they have lost the race already and the competitors are going to eat their web search in the not to distance future. The biggest thing they have right now imo is android and that only on mobile phones as the tablet is dominated by Apple.

    They have lost trust with the tech savvy as we all know their products have such a short shelf life and we have been burnt before. They have very few chances left.

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      They literally “invented” the method used by chatgpt. They are still ahead with AI research. Their main problem is bringing the value to the market. But that is a management problem. Management has no clear vision unfortunately. But it might takes just few changes at the highest management level to completely change the game. Google has still the best r&d in the tech world, they must return to use it properly

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        In a way, it looks even worse for a company that it was ahead in the fundamental research, and the corporate bureaucracy and management held it back so much that competitors took the difficult ideas invented there and turned them into products first. My intuition is that it’s easier to fix being behind on a research and technology level than it is to fix having bad corporate culture and complacent management focused only on protecting existing cash cows.

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          Both are difficult. Microsoft had most money in the world for a long time and never managed to have a barely decent R&D. The only decent internal “original” product was probably c#, that is still a copy of java. The problem is companies focused on making money prefer paying external companies to take the risks of innovation, and eventually buy them. It is the same for big pharma companies. When MBAs are in charge, innovation stops, because MBA fundamentally do not understand it. On the other hand innovation-focused companies struggle to make money, because they don’t understand customers and market.

          Google tried to put itself in the middle, a 3rd way, but on the long term money people won, and left the innovation part as those companies that display an original Leonardo’s notebook in the entrance of their offices. It became a prestigious token to show around.

          They need to evolve going back in time, otherwise there’s a real risk for them.

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        And DeepMind is doing things that no one has done before, some of which were groundbreaking contributions to the field of biology. Ah, what am I saying … I got confused. Google bad!

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              Deepmind was even bought by Google. Let’s hope this “google deepmind” idea won’t kill it. They are crazy good

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                They’ve been under the fold for a while now. I don’t think they’re in any danger of being graveyarded. I think for them internal politics, part of which being shareholder pressure, will be the challenge to keep on top of.

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                  I was not thinking about graveyard, more about losing the freedom of research to “deliver products to market”. That would mean killing the greatness of deepmind

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                  I was not thinking about graveyard, more about losing the freedom of research to “deliver products to market”. That would mean killing the greatness of deepmind

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      Graphene is growing fast. They might sell hardware only in the future, but they’ll likely screw that up too. The best android experience is the one without google.

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      1 year ago

      People underestimate google and the commercial side.

      Google bard and the AI platforms behind it have been in progress for a decade. Their ability to separate language models for custom uses is perfect for large scale custom operation and direct cloud integration.