we understand how this political system works well enough to know we can’t have it
I will say it:
FUCK THAT.
Can’t have healthcare.
Can’t have social security.
Can’t have minimum wage.
Can’t vote for normal people.
Can’t stop billionaires from taking everything.
Can’t make anyone responsible.
Can’t have anything, while understanding that the system is set up for you to fail, and you will defend it because otherwise the system fails.
The system is failing right now on so many levels. The fascists taking over is the normal progression of the system, and I’m sick and tired of people saying ‘we cant change it, it will hurt more people’.
Sick and vulnerable people are being held hostage to stop any meaningful change, despite them being fucked even now.
Same with the retirements being held hostage to stop reforming the stock market.
Putting words in my mouth won’t change the mess we’ve got on our hands. We want those things and we can get them, but not immediately (absent a millions-strong general strike) and not without a fight (another Blair mountain, probably worse).
I’m not trying to deter you. I’m talking about what’s in our way.
Sounds more like they’re giving up on these two shitty privately run parties not giving up on their country or democracy. The failures leading the Democratic party are the reason why Trump got elected in the first place (along with giving away those SCOTUS appointments which got Roe overturned) and they’ve done absolutely nothing to fix things in the interim, giving Trump another chance at the office in 2024. How can you in good conscious support this and actively argue against people who are more interested in changing things than maintaining the status quo that’s brought us to this point?
You’re literally having an internet tantrum at this point. We’re all angry, dude. I would LOVE a third party candidate, but this is NOT the election to do that.
Sure it is. At the local level. There are a small number of greens in office in city councils and such, but their website shows a roster that is mostly on school boards and small committees. This is not a party that is ready for the big time. The fact that Stein keeps running for president rather than building from the ground up tells me it’s currently just an operation that turns well meaning dollars into a perpetual grand gesture. I’d like to see that change.
I’m not american, I’m not saying don’t vote Biden. If you can, make sure you do.
I’m saying I’m just tired of pretending this is going anywhere. It’s not. The climate catastrophe is upon is, billions are going to die, and those who survive will fall to fascists within two decades tops.
Just the notion that Trump, convicted felon, twice impeached (yet never removed), is a serious contender for the presidency, is absolutely fucked beyond imagination.
What in the bloody hell did we do wrong to get here? How are we going to correct it? Is there any way to solve just this one issue, out of the pile of other civilization-level threats?
I will say it:
FUCK THAT.
Can’t have healthcare.
Can’t have social security.
Can’t have minimum wage.
Can’t vote for normal people.
Can’t stop billionaires from taking everything.
Can’t make anyone responsible.
Can’t have anything, while understanding that the system is set up for you to fail, and you will defend it because otherwise the system fails.
The system is failing right now on so many levels. The fascists taking over is the normal progression of the system, and I’m sick and tired of people saying ‘we cant change it, it will hurt more people’.
Sick and vulnerable people are being held hostage to stop any meaningful change, despite them being fucked even now.
Same with the retirements being held hostage to stop reforming the stock market.
And I will say it again:
FUCK THAT.
Putting words in my mouth won’t change the mess we’ve got on our hands. We want those things and we can get them, but not immediately (absent a millions-strong general strike) and not without a fight (another Blair mountain, probably worse).
I’m not trying to deter you. I’m talking about what’s in our way.
that is what my grandfather says
his grandfather is the one who repeated that line to him
not repeating that line to my children
And the dipshits on the right listened for the last fifty years and got Roe overturned.
Giving up because you aren’t getting exactly what you want right now is how you lose everything.
Sounds more like they’re giving up on these two shitty privately run parties not giving up on their country or democracy. The failures leading the Democratic party are the reason why Trump got elected in the first place (along with giving away those SCOTUS appointments which got Roe overturned) and they’ve done absolutely nothing to fix things in the interim, giving Trump another chance at the office in 2024. How can you in good conscious support this and actively argue against people who are more interested in changing things than maintaining the status quo that’s brought us to this point?
Because I understand the reality of the system we live in and that one of two people is going to win in November.
Tell them whatever you think they’ll listen to. Best of luck to you.
You’re literally having an internet tantrum at this point. We’re all angry, dude. I would LOVE a third party candidate, but this is NOT the election to do that.
Sure it is. At the local level. There are a small number of greens in office in city councils and such, but their website shows a roster that is mostly on school boards and small committees. This is not a party that is ready for the big time. The fact that Stein keeps running for president rather than building from the ground up tells me it’s currently just an operation that turns well meaning dollars into a perpetual grand gesture. I’d like to see that change.
I’m not american, I’m not saying don’t vote Biden. If you can, make sure you do.
I’m saying I’m just tired of pretending this is going anywhere. It’s not. The climate catastrophe is upon is, billions are going to die, and those who survive will fall to fascists within two decades tops.
Just the notion that Trump, convicted felon, twice impeached (yet never removed), is a serious contender for the presidency, is absolutely fucked beyond imagination.
What in the bloody hell did we do wrong to get here? How are we going to correct it? Is there any way to solve just this one issue, out of the pile of other civilization-level threats?
I’m losing my mind just thinking about it.
“The system is broken, doesn’t work for us, and can’t be changed, but don’t you dare do anything differently or else things won’t get better!”
It was an angry comment, but how did you read anywhere about not daring to change it?
Please, for the love of the universe, change it asap.
I just don’t see any meaningful change that will actually give the help that people need.
We live in a world that solved almost every issue, yet suffer them anyway. It’s just mad.