It’s a nightmare scenario for Microsoft. The headlining feature of its new Copilot+ PC initiative, which is supposed to drive millions of PC sales over the next couple of years, is under significant fire for being what many say is a major breach of privacy and security on Windows. That feature in question is Windows Recall, a new AI tool designed to remember everything you do on Windows. The feature that we never asked and never wanted it.

Microsoft, has done a lot to degrade the Windows user experience over the last few years. Everything from obtrusive advertisements to full-screen popups, ignoring app defaults, forcing a Microsoft Account, and more have eroded the trust relationship between Windows users and Microsoft.

It’s no surprise that users are already assuming that Microsoft will eventually end up collecting that data and using it to shape advertisements for you. That really would be a huge invasion of privacy, and people fully expect Microsoft to do it, and it’s those bad Windows practices that have led people to this conclusion.

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    That’s usually what I think too, but after watching how Twitter’s gone to shit since the two big user departures, I think this could legitimately affect Microsoft’s bottom line.

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      That will rely on businesses moving away from Windows. That is where they make a ton of their money with Enterprise licenses and Office 365 subscriptions.

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          They do care about keeping their company secrets and proprietary info though. Recall could make corporate espionage a cake walk.

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          We handle a lot of IP on our Windows PCs so it’s debatable. However, in recent years, Microsoft has taken over most of our services with SSO, office 360, teams, etc so who knows.

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          If you look at sysadmin forums and groups it seems like most recommend disabling recall. Just about every enterprise will have confidentiality, security, or legislative requirements that recall is simply inconsistent with. It’s understandably been a hot topic.

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        Yup. It’ll depend on how they handle Recall at the institutional level.

        It’s a given that hospitals and law firms will have to turn it off, as they’re required by law to honor privilege. We’ll see what choices they make.

        I find the nosedive in Twitter’s stock price these last few years encouraging. It seems for many there is a red line.

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      I believe the biggest thing that will hurt MS is moving to subscription. The vast majority of users aren’t gonna wanna have a forever fee when they buy a laptop/PC

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        That’s definitely going to be a problem for them, yes, because it’s also going to drive a ton of traffic to Linux and Linux is going to get even better.

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      Twitter is a great example of the exact opposite being true. Are people upset? Absolutely. Did they leave the platform? Nope. Maybe a small percentage.

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        Twitter definitely lost a ton of users and tons continue to leave. That’s why advertisers have pulled out and their stock price has tanked. Twitter is a bad example

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          What user departures? The platform has barely dipped. Stock prices are meaningless.

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            X is the one telling the number of X users. Do you really trust Melon to tell the truth?

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              Who said anything about “number of users”? “Monthly Active Users” (MAU) is the industry standard.

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                Are you serious? The comment you replied to explicitly says “user departures”. And the article I linked is about active users.

                Is this how you respond when you’re proven to be blatantly wrong about something? Totally pathetic.

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                  Bruh are you for real? The article linked is about “user departures”. What does that even mean? It doesn’t even have any sources for any of the information provided.

                  Is this how you respond when you have no idea WTF you’re talking about?

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        It’s X.

        Stop deadnaming X.

        Anyone still clinging to the remnants of its former existence, please close your account. Stop kidding yourself.

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            You say that but deep down you know it’s Elon Musk’s X now. The dream is no more. You’re an X’er Harry!

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          I’ll stop deadnaming Twitter when Musk stops deadnaming his trans daughter.

          And for the record, I’ve never used Twitter. It’s always kinda sucked. Now it really sucks.

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            Musk is a complete shithead and that’s not gonna happen.

            Calling it Twitter is only going to accommodate the people that refuse to get off that nazi network.

            Cause you know Musk gets off on the hate of people still calling it Twitter, exactly because how he treats deadnaming.