At least 274 Palestinians were killed and 698 wounded in Israeli strikes on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, Gaza’s health ministry said on Sunday. The Israeli military said its forces came under heavy fire during the daytime operation.

The EU’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, called it a “massacre”, while the UN’s aid chief described in graphic detail scenes of “shredded bodies on the ground”.

“Nuseirat refugee camp is the epicentre of the seismic trauma that civilians in Gaza continue to suffer,” Martin Griffiths said in a post on X, calling for a ceasefire and the release of all hostages.

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    I wonder if there is a number at all for which hammas would say “you know what, holding 100 hostages is just not worth so many dead people of our people, maybe we should just give them back”

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      The IDF flattened Gaza, I’d be surprised if even 20 hostages are alive at this point. Also even if they gave them back I doubt Israel would stop, this rescue was pretty much done to keep their coalition government together, they haven’t been too interested in getting anyone back outside of that.

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        The major party in coalition literally resigned the day of the rescue. There are currently 100 Israeli hostages dead or alive in gaza. Israel will not stop until they find each and every one of them dead or alive. Hammas and Gazans themselves at some point should understand that this whole OCT 7 was a huge mistake. And im saying gazans here because not only hammas was involved in that shit. Those 4 hostages were held in homes of “civilian families” by “civilian people” with children and wifes and shit.

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          Yea, didn’t pan out for Netanyahu, doesn’t change the motive for this rescue though. Israel seems far more interested in killing Palestinians than rescue anyone, they even killed a bunch of hostages instead of rescuing them previously.

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      The hostages are mere pawns leveraged by both military organizations and specifically by the IDF to justify the ongoing genocide. The IDF was killing their own citizens on October 7th alongside Hamas, and the Israeli government themselves issued that report. Israeli blockading of food supplies starves the Israeli hostages alongside the Palestinian civilians.

      Why would Hamas ever give up hostages if this is how Israel acts towards their own captured citizens now?

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        Israeli blockading of food supplies starves the Israeli hostages alongside the Palestinian civilians.

        You’re talking like Hamas didn’t have a reason to keep the hostages alive.

        Dead hostages are worthless hostages

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        “Ongoing genocide” The moment hammas is de weaponized and hostages are back all this would stop.

        “Blockading food” The state of Israel just presented today to the supreme court that 6000 truck per months entered gaza since hmammas started this shit. Thats not blockade.

        If Israel wanted to genocide gazans it could use much more efficient methods for this.

        To add to that that BY HAMMAS numbers they had 19000 of their own killed by now. That’s about 1:1 (taking hammas claims for 35000 people killed so far) ratio to civilians so far. Pretty damn good for any military world wide. This is not how genocide lools Like.

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          Blockading food” The state of Israel just presented today to the supreme court that 6000 truck per months entered gaza since hmammas started this shit. Thats not blockade.

          They can say anything they want though, Israel has continuously limited aid for the purpose of causing starvation of Palestinians, IDF officials have openly admitted this.

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          Your first point is not true: Israel has said it will not end its war once the hostages are freed.

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          this would stop.

          Would it? They’ve been slowly pushing Palestinians out of their homeland for the last 70 years.

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          The state of Israel just presented today to the supreme court

          Investigating myself and presenting evidence to me that I have done nothing wrong, then acquitting myself of all charges. Then passing a law that says anyone who questions my ruling is a member of Hamas.

          BY HAMMAS numbers they had 19000 of their own killed by now

          I’m excited to see your citation on this.

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      hammas would say

      Who in Hamas would say this? Is there any kind of leadership structure that hasn’t been carpet bombed out of existence already? How would any two members communicate with one another absent an IDF strike team murdering anyone in a city block’s radius from the call?