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    5 months ago

    So you have problems reading I guess. I am saying the slur is not the problem (because it’s not that bad in this instance), the institutionalized homophobia is one of the many systemic problems of the church that is not going anywhere even if you get a pope that speaks using pronouns.

    So take a chill pill, being gay or even being right doesn’t give you the right to be a nasty person. Cheers

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      The slur is honophobic, and that’s a problem.

      And I’m not the nasty person in this situation. You are, because you’re defending the use of a slur and lecturing a queer person how I should feel about it.

      You are a disgusting person. No wonder you love defending homophobic “people” like the pope.

      I hope you burn.

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        Unlike you (apparently) I speak the language, and my whole point is that it’s not really a “slur”. You can feel as you want about it, you can even feel attacked by someone wishing you good day, for all I care. It doesn’t change the fact that the word itself is not really that bad. It’s not comparable to " fag…" In English.

        I see you are just a hateful person who is looking for reasons to feel prosecuted, at the cost of bending reality, so you can hate others. Suit yourself, I am sure your behavior will greatly help your community!

        Edit: I forgot. You are wishing people to burn or worse in this thread left and right, with a half-asses understanding of what has been written. You are nasty even IF someone was defending the pope. Take it down a couple of notches.

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          Fuck off with you’re straighsplaining and gaslighting. I have zero respect for anything that emits from your shitty straight centrist mouth. You’re nothing but a privileged queerphobe with a redditesque demeanor.

          I don’t need you to tell me what isn’t and is a slur in Italian. It’s clear that you’re wrong. I know shitty English and Spanish speaking Straights too who downplay hateful behavior, and you’re exactly like them.

          I hope something horrible befalls you.

          Edit: Thank you for saying I’m nasty, though. I really try to treat queerphobes miserably, so looks like I’m on the right track.

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            “I don’t speak the language, you do, but I know better than you what is and is not a slur because every language has to work the same”. Frociaggine is hardly a slur, it’s a term that can be used in many contexts without any particular hateful undertone, although this applies to friendly contexts mostly. “frocio” is closer to a slur because it’s more personal, although in Italian is very common for slurs/bad words to be used in a completely different way too (see for example use of “stronzo”) or without the bad connotation. In Rome this phenomenon is particularly common.

            You seem to have a colonialist mindset. Your culture/language apparently has to apply anywhere, no differences accepted.

            Also, I am a radical leftist who is a full supporter of LGBTQ rights, and I fight the Church in Italy for decades. So you can put down your strawman.

            Calling gaslighting telling you about a word that you don’t understand is the cherry on top :)

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                You are not reading at all, apparently. Shame, it’s useful sometimes. You should try.

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                    5 months ago

                    So your opinion on the use of an Italian word is not important, as you are not in the community (Italian speakers). Sounds good to me.

                    (Obviously I consider your argument BS, but happy to apply it both ways).