• barsoap@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    A locked torque converter is the same, mechanically, as a fully engaged clutch.

    Which stalls the motor under high torque load.

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      5 months ago

      Tell us you didn’t read what I just wrote without telling us you didn’t read it.

      The engine will only stall under load if it is at so low of an RPM that it is generating insufficient torque to overcome the inertia. Which if you are moving and in the correct gear for your speed is never.

      Which is why your transmission has more than one gear.

      Remember back 30 seconds ago when I told you to think? Actually try it this time. Or maybe plug some of your bullshit into Google first before continuing to make a fool of yourself in front of everybody.

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        Which if you are moving and in the correct gear for your speed is never.

        In stop and go traffic it’s practically always. The car needs to be able to handle that, it can’t be rated higher than that situation.

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          Which is why automatics have torque converters and manuals have clutches. It’s almost like we’ve come full circle or something!

          Millions and millions of vehicles are driving on the world’s roads right now, happily tooling along under the sound mechanical and physical principles known as “reality,” completely heedless of your apparent inability to understand it.

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            Yes and a manual can slip the clutch, it’s built for that. A torque converter can’t slip the lock, it’s not build for that, it has to stay open. And that generates a fuckton of heat.

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              And? Come on, you’re almost there. Just two more neurons to put together:

              That’s why the transmission cooler is there.

              Wrap up: Your original claim that Americans “can’t” tow due to predominantly driving automatic transmission cars, in addition to being an uncreative and tired thinly veiled attempt at insulting Americans, is not only wrong but also prima facie absurd.

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                And is the cooler in cars big enough to have noticeable towing capacity, or do you need a bigger one that only really fits a truck? How much additional radiator area do you need per additional ton of towing capacity (overcoming momentum, not tongue weight that can easily be zero just get a four-wheeled trailer)? For manuals, that’s zero additional radiator area. For automatics, I’ll leave the maths to you.

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                  And is the cooler in cars big enough to have noticeable towing capacity

                  Yes, it is. Do you realize that manufacturers publish a maximum towing capacity as part of their specifications for every vehicle? This is publicly available information, right there on the internet. It’s not a secret. The required surface area for the cooler is designed right in by the manufacturer for the transmission to work for the vehicle’s application. This not a case of something “extra” being added. It’s just how cars with automatic transmissions are built to begin with.

                  The published towing capacity for most vehicles that are available in both automatic and stick are exactly the same. Would you care to guess why that is? You could have figured it out for yourself if you would bother to actually do some extremely minimal internet research instead of continuing to shoot your mouth off on whatever this ill-informed little crusade of yours is.

                  Your initial claim is false. End of discussion. Just stop. You’re making a fool of yourself.

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                    Yes, it is. Do you realize that manufacturers publish a maximum towing capacity as part of their specifications for every vehicle?

                    And have you compared EU spec manuals vs. American model versions? When it comes to specs there’s another big difference which I didn’t mention: Tongue weight. Which isn’t towing capacity and EU spec trailers have drastically lower tongue weight for their rated carrying capacity: Because we actually pull loads with light vehicles. As already said, put four wheels on a trailer and the tongue weight is practically zero. Our trailers also come with brakes.