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    4 months ago

    It’s I possible to have a conversation with someone who constantly pretends like they didn’t say what they did.

    real pot and kettle situation you’ve made here

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      4 months ago

      Someone who advocates for taking care of the planet, and treating others compationately disagrees with you. You try to defend massive corporations that are well known for destroying the planet and abusing animals in ways so horrific that simply being shown what they are doing took you to a place not far from suicidal ideas. If that is really what you think you should be defending deep down, there is nothing I can tell you to change your mind. Just consider if you would rather be on the side defending compassion or on the side fighting against it.

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      4 months ago

      I absolutely get that you don’t want to be thinking these things next time you are trying to enjoy your cheap cheeseburger and ice cream, or whatever else your personal guilty pleasure is. I am well aware that I have, at least temporarily, greatly tarnished your ability to selfishly enjoy these things. I hope this conversation will help you, or anyone reading this, be a bit more loving. You have not at all succeeded in convincing me that I should be more selfish, more hateful, or less compassionate. I highly doubt that your best version of yourself would really want what you are so sadly trying to desperately defend.

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          4 months ago

          The reason they feel like personal attacks is because your ego is so twisted around your emotional dependence on a deplorable addiction. If you were able to separate your ideas from yourself, then me questioning your ideas wouldn’t be so deeply offensive to you. The trouble is that you can’t fathom a life without paying people to destroy the environment and treat animals horribly. This is because you think living without cheap animal products simply isn’t an option. I assure you it is, and after your withdrawal, you will actually feel better. It may not take nearly as long or be nearly as unbearable as you are fearing. Really, truly. Most people who have put their morals above their pleasure have gone through this very thing, and I’m confident you can as well.

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            4 months ago

            If you were able to separate your ideas from yourself, then me questioning your ideas wouldn’t be so deeply offensive to you.

            this isn’t about questioning my ideas. it’s about developing evidence to support your position. you still haven’t don that.

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              4 months ago

              I have. You just are blind to anything that challenges your behavior. Luckily, you have managed to reverse your stance somewhat on factory farms. That’s a great win. I hope it sticks with you.

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            4 months ago

            This is because you think living without cheap animal products simply isn’t an option.

            i never said this, i said that your decision to do so doesn’t change the emissions from the industry.

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            4 months ago

            they don’t feel like personal attacks. tehy are. you’re not presenting any evidence to support your position, you are making attacks against me a s a person.

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        4 months ago

        You have not at all succeeded in convincing me that I should be more selfish, more hateful, or less compassionate.

        i have not tried to do that

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        4 months ago

        I am well aware that I have, at least temporarily, greatly tarnished your ability to selfishly enjoy these things

        look, normally i think that it’s shitty to dig through a user’s history and drag it into the current discussion, but i do encourage you to sort my comments by old.

        i have been objecting to your feckless method of protecting teh environment for years. this account alone is almost solely focused on pushing people to find effective methods.

        you literally have no idea who you are talking to or what you are talking about.

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          4 months ago

          It is incredibly ironic that you see yourself as a moral force for good while vehemently defending some of the most atrocious practices in the world today. I hope you are able to cast aside your addiction so you can see clearly enough to actually do some good. It is clear that you find your behavior deplorable, it is just that you can’t fathom giving up on your precious factory farms.

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              4 months ago

              I’m against factory farms. You are for factory farms. It would be incredible if you now try to switch this as well. It would be such progress if you now start trying to attack factory farms for their vile practices.

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                It would be such progress if you now start trying to attack factory farms for their vile practices.

                this is a red herring. it has nothing to do with whether buying celery will reduce agricultural emissions.

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            4 months ago

            more posturing and rhetoric, but no evidence that abstaining from factory farmed meat has ever reduced emissions.

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              4 months ago

              It’s incredibly easy to search, I have provided an article, but there are many many more that you can easily find. It’s been known for a long time. And isn’t disagreed on.

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                4 months ago

                It’s incredibly easy to search,

                this is not evidence

                I have provided an article, but there are many many more that you can easily find.

                this is not evidence

                It’s been known for a long time.

                this is not evidence

                And isn’t disagreed on.

                this is not evidence

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                  4 months ago

                  Well, I think we should be thankful for the progress you made. It’s so nice to see you now talking against factory farms. Hopefully, you are stro g enough to put your money where your mouth is. Talk only does so much, it’s who you support with your energy that really matters.

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            4 months ago

            I hope you are able to cast aside your addiction

            back to practicing without a license again?