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    3 months ago

    I honestly don’t know how to write this so it doesn’t sound like I’m attacking you but I’m going to try.

    Disclaimer, Kamala Harris hasn’t stated anything on her stance involving Israel/Gaza conflict yet (as the presidential nominee), so my statements below may be a non-issue for you come election time anyway…

    While it might feel like “doing the right thing” by not voting or voting third party, you are giving a vote to Trump if you do so, which is worse. It fucking sucks that we have this shitty two party system and all of sane people who aren’t just “my team vs your team” hate it… but I really hope you decide that your vote won’t be for Kamala but against Trump, since he will be far worse, not only for Gaza but Ukraine as well.

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        It is though. We’ve effectively been given the Trolley Problem, and instead of playing you’re choosing to walk away and whatever happens, happens, as long as you feel good.

        I’m sure Biden feels fucking awful about what’s going on. But he was elected to do the job the best he can and unfortunately a psychopath that we have little control over is in charge of Israel. Until something can be done about him. America has to play nice.

        Netanyahu wants Trump. Not voting Democrat gives him a better chance.

        Again, it really sucks but the presidential election is a unfortunately two party.

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          I’m sure Biden feels fucking awful about what’s going on.

          I think he fuckin’ loves it, because he’s a racist piece of shit. He thinks brown people are supposed to submit to their white colonial overloads, and the Palestinians are getting what they deserve for being troublemakers.

          He’s from a generation where that was almost universally believed. He probably hates that he has to pretend he believes otherwise.

          Unfortunately a psychopath that we have little control over is in charge of Israel. Until something can be done about him. America has to play nice.

          Biden is HELPING Israel commit genocide. Biden is using his UN Security Council veto to prevent the UN from acting against Israel. He is sending Israel munitions and billions of dollars.

          Biden is not a bystander. He is an active and enthusiastic participant.

          Edit: And the Democrats all suck for acting as if what Joe Biden is doing is normal. The Democrats, as a party, don’t deserve to exist anymore. If Trump weren’t a fascist, I wouldn’t be considering voting for the Democrats at all.

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            He vetoed cease-fire agreements that called for permanent cease-fires but without the release of hostages as a condition to the cease-fire*. All that does is give Hamas time to recoup without any stipulations, leading to an even longer war. They are a terrorist organization hiding behind Palestinians and hostages.

            Listen, I am by no means a fan of Israel. Their treatment of the Palestinian people has been atrocious but, regardless of who is president, weapons will be sold to Israel by the US.

            Your edit about democrats only being a player here because Trump is a fascist is a real problem. A problem that you can directly affect with your vote/non-vote.

            *The release of hostages is mentioned but not as a condition… meaning the agreement called for a cease-fire with or without the release of hostages.

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          We’ve effectively been given the Trolley Problem, and instead of playing you’re choosing to walk away

          That’s exactly what I would do if I were driving the trolley. I’m not going to choose to sacrifice some people who otherwise weren’t in danger, even if it saves a larger number of people.

          I would do what I can to trying to save the larger number of people (by trying to fix the trolley’s brakes, etc), but I’m not going to kill an unrelated group of innocent people to do it.