Although Kremlin strike planners probably didn’t intend to hit a NATO member, Romania’s military launched F-16s fighters and said it would investigate.

A Russian kamikaze drone on Wednesday flew into NATO air space and detonated near a Romanian village, Ukrainian news reports said, but official Bucharest said the fact of the strike wasn’t confirmed and that they would check.

Ukrainian social media video recorded in the river port city of Izmail, opposite Plaura, showed an orange flash lighting up the night horizon and a booming blast on the Romanian side of the river. Flames and smoke reaching hundreds of meters into the sky were visible following the explosion. A Russian kamikaze drone strike against Izmail had been in progress at the time.

  • CableMonster@lemmy.ml
    62·
    3 months ago

    They actually had a tentative agreement in Spring of 2022, but then NATO flew in and offered them money and weaponry so they could fight more. I am not moving the goal posts I am just telling you what reality is - Ukraine is going to lose, there is no other outcome.

    • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
      3·
      3 months ago

      They either agree to peace on the current borders, which Russia is offering, or the war drags on for another 2 years and they dont have a choice in surrender (this comes with another 200k+ dead)

      I dont care about nationalism personally, I only care about the lives of the working class. As such, any route to peace should be persued as quickly as possible.

    • shapesandstuff@feddit.org
      11·
      3 months ago

      Bruv youre not saying anything youre asking open leading questions.

      And then you ask different questions when you dislike the answers. That’s exactly what moving goalposts means. I understand you love russia but please read and think before you reply.

      • CableMonster@lemmy.ml
        41·
        3 months ago

        I am taking the logical argument in the direction that you guys are thinking to show its logically inconsistent. You guys just dont understand what is going on there and repeating one of two different talking point directions.

          • CableMonster@lemmy.ml
            23·
            3 months ago

            Yes sir

            1. We have to give weapons so that Ukraine can win.

            2. Russia is Nazi Germany and will keep taking over all of Europe so we need to stop them now.

            Both of these arguments are terrible and have huge holes.

            • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.mlनेपाली
              1·
              3 months ago
              1. Ukraine was never able to win this war short of over-escelating with nukes. The conflict happened because of conditions that they themselves set in motion; they allowed nazis to organise and attack against ethnic minorities and lgbt+ rallies with western and ex-soviet weaponry.

              This is a fascist folk band, they did a tour that involved going to western ukraine and stoking tensions + encouraging they commit acts of terror

              https://genius.com/Death-in-june-snipers-of-the-maidan-lyrics

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidan_casualties

              They would go on to write songs about it

              in case you thought there was any ambiguity, this is the brain rot we’re dealing with

              This is literally just one example. Comparing Russia to the nazis here is genuinally insane.

              • CableMonster@lemmy.ml
                1·
                3 months ago

                I was sharing the beliefs of people pro war. They are not saying they are like the Nazis, they are claiming they have the same intention to take over countries.

                • ghost_of_faso2@lemmygrad.ml
                  2·
                  3 months ago

                  Oh yeah my tone came off wrong there, more replying to the person they are talking to as im assuming they downvoted it; I hoped to show how the ‘no nazis to see here’ thing shitlibs love to do with downplaying ukraines actual fascist presence.