• _edge@discuss.tchncs.de
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    A member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party, speaking Monday at a meeting of lawmakers, justified the rape and abuse of Palestinian prisoners, shouting angrily at colleagues questioning the alleged behavior that anything was legitimate to do to “terrorists” in custody.

    Lawmaker Hanoch Milwidsky was asked as he defended the alleged abuse whether it was legitimate, “to insert a stick into a person’s rectum?”

    “Yes!” he shouted in reply to his fellow parliamentarian. “If he is a Nukhba [Hamas militant], everything is legitimate to do! Everything!”

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      Sometimes it feels like certain parts of humanity just didn’t really learn all the lessons that they should have from the Holocaust about dehumanizing people.

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          There’s a reason that countries started agreeing on a set of laws of war, and it wasn’t the goodness of their hearts. It means if your own soldiers get captured by an enemy working under the same rules, they should ideally be treated with at least a minimal standard of care. But every incident like this or Abu Ghraib weakens those protections and norms.

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        Food, shelter, water, healing body, mind and spirit is the justice. When we seek retribution, we seek “just us,” if every “race” or whatever false construct we use to “other,”, it’s swallowing poison and expecting others to die, with apologies to the Buddha.

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          Nah, I’m pretty sure if I put a hole in somebody that wants to see me reduced to either prison slavery or a chalk outline for no other reason than the color of my skin, the texture of my hair, or who I’d side my solidarity with other than a morass of the people who oppress my community, then that’s one less colonizer I have to deal with.

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            May work out for you, may not. At any rate, the US defense department thought having drone operators in rooms far away from war would prevent PTSD (shell shock) by physically removing then from the atrocities of war. You can do your research to see how it worked out. If you care.

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      I have a core belief that people are essentially good but prone to circumstances that make them conform to do awful things, including upbringing and mental disorders, trauma, bad teaching, bad role models etc.

      But this guy is really testing my faith in that belief here.

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          Some people really desire hierarchy and they lack empathy, they feel better when others suffer even if it doesn’t make them any better off. Then they join right wing political parties with each other and come into power.

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            I guess that’s what it comes to. People on the bottom what to know that there is someone underneath them. And strong men give them that. You see it with racial divides being poked and prodded in America. I guess that’s what we see here.

            Instead of making it better for all of us, some people just wanna see that they are already better than someone else.

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        Most Israelis aren’t religious. They just use Juadaism and accusations of “anti-semitism” as a shield for their white supremacy, colonization, apartheid, and fascism.

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        Naw. Religion’s a useful tool for assholes, but it’s not what makes them assholes

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    shouting angrily at colleagues questioning the alleged behavior that anything was legitimate to do to “terrorists” in custody.

    We need to remember this, when calling for retributive “justice.” That’s not justice. That’s revenge, and it’s not just, for us, the Israelis, Palestinians, and closer to home, Dems, Reps, Libertarians, Tankies, Fascists.

    Justice is balancing the scales: removing conditions of despair, as best we can, rather than finding new and more cruel ways to create more despair.

    Simple. Not easy.

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    Well it isn’t rape… according to Israeli law. It only qualifies as rape if it’s against Jewish women. Sorry, Christian women. You’re fair game. It’s like that old adage, “if we’re running from a bear, I don’t need to outrun the bear”…

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    It is exceedingly disheartening to me that, no matter who I vote for in the next election, these actions are going to continue and Israel will not only remain our ally, but we’re still going to be sending them our weapons and my tax dollars.