Do you miss phones with replaceable batteries? By 2027, you won't anymore because, by law, almost every smartphone will have them again.

Do you miss phones with replaceable batteries? By 2027, you won’t anymore because, by law, almost every smartphone will have them again.

    • witx@lemmy.worldEnglish
      28·
      1 year ago

      That’s an overstatement. It takes a lot of work for some phones and you risk damaging it. Not everyone is able to do it even with the right tools. We need to have a solution so that anyone can do it

      • CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        I literally bought an iFixIt kit to open my phone up (for a screen replace rather than a battery swap, but still) and could not get it open after an hour+ of trying. I’d definitely believe it’s because I’m inexperienced in modern phone repair, but I’m not a generally unsavvy person. I build computers and mess around with tech as a hobbyist. I had to take it to a shop and return the kit. It’s definitely not an easy process for some devices.

    • Justice@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      Change this to “you can do that now with…some very basic tools” and we have a deal. It should only require a “normal” screwdriver, nothing outside of tips such as cross, flat, hex, torx and which I’m forgetting. Basically none of that Y shaped bullshit or the torx-looking tip with the little raised dot. Fuck all of that shit. And of course no heat gun requirement. I don’t think it’s asking a ton to be able to remove like 10 small screw (or whatever it takes) and pull an old battery out, insert a new one. I like to believe we can figure this out as a species…or rather, I know we already CAN but it’s just profitable for all the manufacturers to basically build in a “phone death date” because they know the battery will shit itself under 4-5 years and be reduced considerably in only the first 2. Make it a hassle/expensive to replace and force upgrades. Bad for the world and bad for consumers. At least those precious investors get their returns… the almighty investor…

      • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        or the torx-looking tip with the little raised dot.

        That’s Torx TR, meaning “keep out if you don’t know what you’re doing”, they’re freely and widely available, not stopping anyone just giving pause. Completely different ballpark than vendor-specific heads or one-way heads or stuff someone will sue you for if you produce drivers.

        Heck if you buy a random small bit set, not a security one mind you but ordinary, chances aren’t small that the Torx bits are going to be TR as you can use them with non-TR torx.

        That’s not to say that you should use them for user-servicable battery compartments, on the contrary: Those are supposed to be “yep come in it’s quite idiot-safe in here” types of places. But you’d want them when you dig further into the phone as doing things the wrong way or just in the wrong order may damage stuff, they belong on PSUs so curious idiots don’t kill themselves, such applications.

    • ram@lemmy.worldEnglish
      111·
      1 year ago

      You can do that now with a heat gun and some very basic tools.

      A heat gun is a specialized tool. That’s the problem.

      • sirmanleypower@lemmy.oneEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        It’s really not a specialized tool.l at all, there are a million things you can use a heat gun for. And they’re like $20 at Harbor Freight.

        • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
          12·
          1 year ago

          Not nearly hot enough for these kinds of applications. And you seriously don’t want to dry your hair with a heat gun.

          It’s like comparing a NERF gun to a howitzer, sure both shoot projectiles…

          • Bobert@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            21·
            1 year ago

            It’s what I literally have used for multiple repairs now, so don’t tell me it’s not hot enough. iPhone 11, Pixel 5a, and a Samsung Galaxy S21.

    • FredericChopin_@feddit.ukEnglish
      87·
      1 year ago

      Hyperbole. To do it correctly you need a lot of tools which companies like Apple have made it very difficult to obtain. The risk of damaging the device is high for the average person.

      I get that the majority of people here on Lemmy are likely to be more tech savvy than the average person, I don’t think we should set the precedent of exaggerated comments, we don’t want to become Reddit.

      • Bobert@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        113·
        1 year ago

        You start a sentence with hyperbole and then go into an outright lie.

        https://a.co/d/h73DLbO

        $20

        https://a.co/d/dPWrMFv

        $10

        You now own every single tool needed to replace an iPhone battery. They are absolutelty not difficult to obtain.

        I mean I get it. Most of us here are tech savvy and capable. Would I tell my mom to do this herself? My girlfriend? 75% of people on the street? No to all the above. But don’t come in here and say something as blatantly false as “Apple has made [a lot of tools] difficult to obtain”. That is a bald faced lie and you do a bigger disservice to your argument when you add such a statement to it.

    • squidzorz@lemmy.mlEnglish
      11·
      1 year ago

      People are gonna hate on this comment but it’s true. I can replace the battery in my iPhone in an hour if I want to, even if it’s not as easy as it used to be with removable plastic covers on the back of phones.