People really underestimate the value of stability and predictability.
There are some amazing FOSS projects out there ran by folks who don’t give a crap about stability or the art of user experience. It holds them back, and unfortunately helps drive a fragmented ecosystem where we get 2,3,5 major projects all trying to do the same thing.
I wanted to like immich, but it felt like everytime I opened it there was a little box saying there was a new version available. Which would be fine except for when that new version wasn’t compatible with the server version I was running, and upgrading that frequently needed changes to my compose file because they changed some option or library or something.
I just want something that can store pictures of my family without a lot of tinkering.
The issue here is that these are solvable problems, release compat isn’t a new problem. It’s just a problem that takes dedicated effort to solve for, just like any other feature.
This is something FOSS apps tend to lack simply due to the nature of how contributions tend to work for free software. Which is an unfortunate reality, but a reality none the less.
The updates are almost always packed with cool new features so I’d rather have an amazing app with a bit of maintenance then get something stable that lacks features. Especially when stability is now just around the corner.
As far as breaking changes go, in the year of me using the docker install I’ve had maybe 3 updates that required me to change things and each one was leas than 10 mins of work. Pretty basic stuff if you are actually on the selfhosted path. Most people complaining seem to like auto updating apps automatically which seems crazy. I update when I have time to mess around, otherwise it just chugs along super stable.
This is a problem which is endemic to casual software development like many FOSS projects. It’s a reality of how free software tends to be built in general vs commercial software.
Pros and cons, for sure. Companies like Proton (Mail) and Steam are proof that you can have your cake and eat it too. It’s mostly publicly-funded corporations that are rotten. You can also rest assured that they will not abandon the project because they get bored.
Ente also provides Ente Auth for free, which is an excellent TOTP authenticator.
Encryption in self hosted when you’re hosting only your personal data isn’t really a positive feature
For the case of ente, having all the photos in encrypted blobs in a minio container, means you have to export the content every night using their cli tool, verify it, repeat for every family member, then backup the result
So… like Immich?
But with fewer breaking changes.
People really underestimate the value of stability and predictability.
There are some amazing FOSS projects out there ran by folks who don’t give a crap about stability or the art of user experience. It holds them back, and unfortunately helps drive a fragmented ecosystem where we get 2,3,5 major projects all trying to do the same thing.
I wanted to like immich, but it felt like everytime I opened it there was a little box saying there was a new version available. Which would be fine except for when that new version wasn’t compatible with the server version I was running, and upgrading that frequently needed changes to my compose file because they changed some option or library or something.
I just want something that can store pictures of my family without a lot of tinkering.
The issue here is that these are solvable problems, release compat isn’t a new problem. It’s just a problem that takes dedicated effort to solve for, just like any other feature.
This is something FOSS apps tend to lack simply due to the nature of how contributions tend to work for free software. Which is an unfortunate reality, but a reality none the less.
In their defense, they also clearly label immich as under active development with frequent changes and bugs.
Edit: nvm I saw it was already discussed in another reply.
Immich is quite new clearly say they will have breaking changes.
https://immich.app/roadmap/
Stable release planned for this year
The updates are almost always packed with cool new features so I’d rather have an amazing app with a bit of maintenance then get something stable that lacks features. Especially when stability is now just around the corner.
As far as breaking changes go, in the year of me using the docker install I’ve had maybe 3 updates that required me to change things and each one was leas than 10 mins of work. Pretty basic stuff if you are actually on the selfhosted path. Most people complaining seem to like auto updating apps automatically which seems crazy. I update when I have time to mess around, otherwise it just chugs along super stable.
I didn’t really mention immich directly here.
This is a problem which is endemic to casual software development like many FOSS projects. It’s a reality of how free software tends to be built in general vs commercial software.
Every time an open-source cloud gallery like Ente or PhotoPrism is mentioned, someone is sure to come along and talk about Immich.
I mean, Immich is cool, yeah, but it definetly is not a gold standard or something. Ente is a much more finished product.
Standard*
Oops, a typo. Thanks.
No problem!
Yes, except it’s encrypted and funded by an actual business.
You’re talking like that’s a good thing?
Pros and cons, for sure. Companies like Proton (Mail) and Steam are proof that you can have your cake and eat it too. It’s mostly publicly-funded corporations that are rotten. You can also rest assured that they will not abandon the project because they get bored.
Ente also provides Ente Auth for free, which is an excellent TOTP authenticator.
Protons not a very good example bud
Why?
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Ok elaborate
No u
U no
Immich is funded by FUTO btw
If my instance of immich no longer works, I still have my files.
If an encrypted database of blobs crashes, I hope I can recover it.
When I’m self hosting, I know my preference.
Encryption in self hosted when you’re hosting only your personal data isn’t really a positive feature
For the case of ente, having all the photos in encrypted blobs in a minio container, means you have to export the content every night using their cli tool, verify it, repeat for every family member, then backup the result
I wasn’t trying to make an argument either way. Just stating facts…
Me too, just saying that encryption isn’t always a pro
No, like a duck.