• capital@lemmy.world
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    would the counterfactual (situations in which a theft or assault were stopped or prevented) be sufficient to show one should carry?

    If not, what was even the point of the question? I get you thought it was pithy but… It’s just kind of dumb if you won’t allow the counterfactual to support my position.

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      Dude, you’re the one talking about how guns can stop theft and your example was a theft that you were not able to stop with a gun. That’s not my fault.

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            No, you don’t want to answer it because you know how easy it is for me to find hundreds of videos online showing exactly what I’m describing and you really don’t want to admit it.

            If “your gun didn’t save you in this one instance” means I shouldn’t have one, then the counterfactual should just as easily mean I should. But you’re not interested in applying your logic in both directions because that wouldn’t suit your position.

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              Then I guess you should have used one of those videos rather than an example where your gun wouldn’t have helped you.

              Also, please quote me saying you shouldn’t have a gun, or at the very least implying it.

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                Then I guess you should have used one of those videos rather than an example where your gun wouldn’t have helped you.

                That was an example of the police not getting my shit back.

                In just about every response in this thread you’ve shown you’re not actually here to engage in good faith by being a sarcastic dickhead so I think I’m done with you.

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                  That would be one way to weasel out of your lie that I suggested you shouldn’t have a gun.

                  Not an especially good way to weasel out of it, but…