• MyOpinion@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    It seems like child abuse to bring someone into this shithole of a world.

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      That’s why I don’t want to do it. Anyone born now or later are going to experience a slow painful death due to lack or resources or a quick painful death in a resource war. And if they have any smarts they would hate my guts once they figure out the fate I had knowingly consigned them to by forcing their concious into a meatsuit.

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        yup either getting propagandized beign sent as fodder for a war, or be miserable from the lack of career, education, job,etc.

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        If being birthed required consent from the eventual person, no births would go to term.

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          Well, did I miss something here? I would have consented… Hell, I’d do it all over again from the beginning even. Let me get to 90, healthily, and then do it all backwards like Merlin.

          Edit: though, hilariously, I don’t have kids, mostly because I don’t have the money to raise one with ease. I’m also just not sure I’m interested.

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      We also know more about genetically linked diseases than ever.

      I watched my grandmother on my mother’s side die of ovarian cancer, which also killed my great grandmother, and afflicted one if my cousins. I would be practically condemning a daughter to the same fate because it’s highly genetically linked.

      Similarly I watched Parkinson’s, another highly genetically linked disease, take my grandfather on my mother’s side.

      My father’s side of the family has a genetic history of heart disease and high blood pressure and my father lost his own father to heart failure when his father was in his forties.

      Knowing your own families medical and genetic history also puts a damper on the whole enterprise.

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        ^ this. There is so much chronic pain in my family at all ages. Not to mention rampant diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, and severe mental illness. Most of the men on my moms side didn’t live much past 60 that we’re aware of. And that’s just the stuff i know of!

        I have no doubt there’s plenty more that people took to the grave without disclosing, or never knew about for themselves because they never saw a doctor in their lives.

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 days ago

        the question you could ask yourself might be “would you like to be born again, as your child, if you could?” that would give you a clear indication of whether it’s worth it.

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      That’s why adoption is the best option. It’s not your fault they exist, but they need a loving home.

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        adoption is actually surprisingly expensive and difficult, and they vet the shit out of potential parents, heavily discourages single parents if there ever has been one. thats why some of them take advantage of going overseas to adopt. fostering might be more better.

      • I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world
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        Adopting a 7 year old or older is the best option. There are 36 couples waiting to adopt for every infant that is up for adoption in the US. The older kids get largely ignored and will likely age out of foster care without ever finding a forever family.

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          oh yea, i heard they view it like a buying a puppy for a birthday, they dont want some “damaged goods” they want brand new they can mold.

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      Yes, i believe it requires an attachment to the ego. I’m starting to lean towards the lesson from the 1983 film “War Games” in which it is better to not even play the game.