I’m not sure I understand how your analogy fits. There’s no heavy lifting involved. 🙂 Everything works and it’s ready-made – otherwise people wouldn’t use it at all. There are also lots of distros specifically tailored to audio and studio work. Naturally, there’s some things to learn but you also had to learn things when you got into audio and presumably you keep up with the industry so there isn’t a big difference.
Check out /r/linuxaudio, lots of resources in the sidebar and very helpful community.
Exactly my point, that’s just not true. There’s always some people who will use the worse tool instead of switching to the better tool (out of principle mostly), it doesn’t mean the tool is great or as good as the alternative, it just means the person doesn’t mind making their life harder than it needs to be.
Just like there were people insisting on doing graphical work on Windows back when Apple was miles ahead in that field or some places run Windows Server instead of using Linux and so on.
Heck, you’re talking about using specific distros for music stuff… If you’re going to dual boot or have a specific OS just for that, why not use the OS that has the better tools that are the industry standard?
There are tools that work on any OS. Audio processing has been developing at an even pace on all main OS (Windows, Mac, Linux). At this point it’s a matter of what flow works best for you. Windows itself is not an industry standard by any means. The OS matters very little in general beyond being able to give you real time processing and low latency. Windows could not even do low latency before 10.
I never said it can’t be done, just like my mechanic could make a living working out of his yard without a garage, I just said that if you’re serious about it long term you can’t escape it, the real (pro) tools aren’t on Linux, just like my mechanic had to buy a garage if he wanted to continue doing that long term and professionally.
Can you now install Mac OS on any hardware? They have the best tools for audio work, right? I can just choose that tool and install it on my… Oh wait! I can’t do that.
Do you not understand the argument you’re arguing?
Hackintosh, but Pro Tools is what’s used by the actual industry (so if you want to be serious about it you better learn to use it) and it’s on both Windows and Mac.
Hackintosh is arguably harder to deal with than Linux.
And why is pro tools still an industry standard? Is it because it’s the best software for the job, or is it because it was left unchallenged for 20 years?
It’s the best tool if you want the job because that’s the industry standard, but if you want to use alternatives then you’ve got a lot more choices on Windows and Mac.
I never said it’s impossible to do audio work on Linux, you’ll be limiting yourself if you do though.
Your point was that pro tools isn’t necessarily the best, I never argued that it is (unless we’re talking about becoming a professional in that field, in which case it’s the best tool because you won’t be able to make it as a pro if you refuse to use it, there’s more to being the best than just how things work) and you haven’t proven that Linux tools are better, so you didn’t make much of a point.
I’m not sure I understand how your analogy fits. There’s no heavy lifting involved. 🙂 Everything works and it’s ready-made – otherwise people wouldn’t use it at all. There are also lots of distros specifically tailored to audio and studio work. Naturally, there’s some things to learn but you also had to learn things when you got into audio and presumably you keep up with the industry so there isn’t a big difference.
Check out /r/linuxaudio, lots of resources in the sidebar and very helpful community.
otherwise people wouldn't use it at allExactly my point, that’s just not true. There’s always some people who will use the worse tool instead of switching to the better tool (out of principle mostly), it doesn’t mean the tool is great or as good as the alternative, it just means the person doesn’t mind making their life harder than it needs to be.
Just like there were people insisting on doing graphical work on Windows back when Apple was miles ahead in that field or some places run Windows Server instead of using Linux and so on.
Heck, you’re talking about using specific distros for music stuff… If you’re going to dual boot or have a specific OS just for that, why not use the OS that has the better tools that are the industry standard?
There are tools that work on any OS. Audio processing has been developing at an even pace on all main OS (Windows, Mac, Linux). At this point it’s a matter of what flow works best for you. Windows itself is not an industry standard by any means. The OS matters very little in general beyond being able to give you real time processing and low latency. Windows could not even do low latency before 10.
Pro tools (the real studio standard): Windows, Mac
Logic: Mac
Live: Windows, Mac
Nuendo: Windows, Mac
Sound Forge: Windows, Mac
Acid Pro: Windows
Reaper: Windows, Mac… Linux!
I can throw out names too. Bitwig, Cadence, Ardour, Zebra yabridge Pianoteq etc. Also entire distributions — MX, Elementary, Ubuntu, Mint, Solus etc.
Is it relevant? Maybe, depending on what you actually need.
Like I said, there’s no shortage of tools on any OS. If you want those specific ones that you listed and you want to do it on Windows, you can.
The only thing I object to is saying it can’t be done on another OS that you’re obviously not familiar with.
I never said it can’t be done, just like my mechanic could make a living working out of his yard without a garage, I just said that if you’re serious about it long term you can’t escape it, the real (pro) tools aren’t on Linux, just like my mechanic had to buy a garage if he wanted to continue doing that long term and professionally.
Can you now install Mac OS on any hardware? They have the best tools for audio work, right? I can just choose that tool and install it on my… Oh wait! I can’t do that.
Do you not understand the argument you’re arguing?
Hackintosh, but Pro Tools is what’s used by the actual industry (so if you want to be serious about it you better learn to use it) and it’s on both Windows and Mac.
Hackintosh is arguably harder to deal with than Linux.
And why is pro tools still an industry standard? Is it because it’s the best software for the job, or is it because it was left unchallenged for 20 years?
It’s the best tool if you want the job because that’s the industry standard, but if you want to use alternatives then you’ve got a lot more choices on Windows and Mac.
I never said it’s impossible to do audio work on Linux, you’ll be limiting yourself if you do though.
Yeah you missed my point, but I would imagine that’s normal for you. Anyway, enjoy your life!
Your point was that pro tools isn’t necessarily the best, I never argued that it is (unless we’re talking about becoming a professional in that field, in which case it’s the best tool because you won’t be able to make it as a pro if you refuse to use it, there’s more to being the best than just how things work) and you haven’t proven that Linux tools are better, so you didn’t make much of a point.
Uh huh!