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  • My answer is vague because: 1-I wasn’t answering the OP, I was replying to you. 2-I don’t like to engage with the “they’re trying but it’s so so complicated” sort of genocide apologia much because it’s a pain in the ass.

    I’ll just say: Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy and the easiest way to falsify a statement is counterexample, so I got you a counterexample. Now can you state exactly what different between the 1980s and today generates rhe difference we see today? If anything Israel was more important to US interests back then due to their role in the cold war. Also, state department employees, who are presumably well versed in international relations, are resigning. Your framing that only ignorant layman are angry with the Biden administration is patently false.

    Edit: I forgot to mention: Drop the ad hominem. Reported.


  • Your list is all "says and “meets”. There’s no single “does” in this whole list, except the (pitiful) sanctions that I admittedly thought were taken down in the planning stage. Anyway, if it was as you said stats department employees wouldn’t be resigning left and right. The Biden administration wouldn’t be criticized by experts on the middle east everywhere. Your implication that the people angry at the Biden administration are ignorant laymen who don’t know better is a patently false appeal to authority. Suffice it to say that if the Biden administration wanted Israel to stop, they’d have stopped by now. Israel literally cannot exist in its current state without the United States. They do not have the economy necessary to commit two genocides at once while holding down a population of oppressed natives, and all naturalization agreements with their neigibors were quid pro quos with the United States that Israel on their own can’t sustain, let alone expand. Israel would be eaten alive by their neigibors without US support and they know it.

    The naive belief that US presidents have a switch in their office that lets them turn the actions of other countries on and off is inaccurate in the extreme.

    Multiple US presidents, the most famous of which is Reagan, did it. And it took a whole lot less than a year.











  • Egypt has a half-decent army and a peace treaty so probably impossible. The Gaza blockade also relies on Egyptian cooperation. Israel is like… That, but I don’t think even them want to return to 70s era Arab relations. Jordan has Saudi Arabia support and a peace treaty, so again no reason to rock the boat. Syria, though? Definitely on the cards. They don’t have a peace treaty and Syria is a failed stated who only have allies in Russia and Iran. The blowback will be disastrous, but Israel has proven they don’t care about that.