Exactly. The whole exchange seems like it caught him on the back foot and wasn’t something he was prepped for so he felt he had to explain the entire situation and got lost in his story and never put a bow on it. When the moderator pressed him after he had finished he followed up with basically “I misspoke, I apologize, shit happens”.
Meanwhile Vance refused to give a solid answer on who won in 2020, but people say he took the debate.
Which one do you have? That is pretty much my exact use case!