there are more ways to take action than to vote.

I’m just as dissolutioned with the voting system as you are, but I’m also aware that sitting around complaining and acting like you know better than everyone else is only obnoxious accomplishes nothing.

either do literally anything at all to contribute, or go find an empty room to whinge into. I’m sure you’ll enjoy the echo.

and that’s a reason to stop trying altogether?

edit: a word

right. I’m sure your self-righteousness, apathy and inaction are going to be a great asset when it comes to building a “better future”.

oh look! here’s yet another person who is blabbering about fascism despite the fact that they obviously don’t even know what it is.

Fascism is a far right-wing ideology. Like, literally always. By definition.

This was not really a threat and let’s be honest because of the power difference this lady is facing actual jail time

I haven’t even made a single comment thus far about what she said, but I absolutely get why she said it. The fact that she’s facing jail time is absurd.

the worker faces nothing.

What we say to others can and often does have an effect on their mental health. Being forced to sit and take abuse and harassment with no recourse isn’t “nothing”. bffr

As I explained, it is a win if CSR don’t want to work for the company unless they are paid more

That’s not how the real world works, though. The majority of us are forced into our jobs because they need money to exist. Even if they wanted to leave, the job market fucking sucks. Not to mention, a lot of the jobs that exist are at other, equally shitty companies. Not much of a choice there.

Making an obvious statement out of frustration is not berating.

Again, I neither said nor implied that it was. I made it pretty clear that I was responding to this specific statement:

Their frontline workers should take the brunt of what the public feels.

The result of getting “the brunt of what the public feels” inherently includes being berated, insulted, ect. I’m sure you’ve experienced as a CSR; as have I. Countless times.

I mean you are really just siding with the corporation under the guise of protecting the CSR agent.

I’d love to hear you elaborate on this claim. It certainly is an interesting one.

My entire point is that I believe (most) people, CSRs in particular, simply deserve to be treated with respect… even when the conversation is about a problem that upsets you. It’s not exactly a complicated argument; nor is it much to ask for.

Now that I think about it, not even one of my points was actually addressed in your response. Nice try, though!

Their frontline workers should take the brunt of what the public feels.

Yes. That is the job. But the fact that they already take the brunt doesn’t justify anyone screaming/abusing/threatening/ect the CSR.

Sounds like a win to me. Company goes under because no one wants to work for them knowing the public hates them or they will get paid enough they don’t care.

A win for whom? What exactly do you get out of it? Satisfaction? Is it just some kind of flaccid moral victory or something?

If this were actually the case, quite a lot of businesses would’ve gone under a long time ago. Most of them still pay shit wages.

In the meantime, real people are negatively affected by the assholery of customers every single day.

This is not a win for the workers. It’s hard enough being forced to spend most of your life working to make just enough money to scrape by, let alone being screamed at, insulted, condescended to, ect.

But then you can’t access the person who is at fault so there is nothing you can do.

except to berate the CSR, apparently. There’s definitely nooo way to voice one’s concerns while speaking like a respectful, emotionally competant human being.

Wait, what does flipping out on them accomplish again?

Idk… a good therapist can do a lot of good. But I can’t in good faith blame you for having that perspective.

There are some really shitty ones out there, and then there are the ones that seem to try, but just aren’t very good. I’ve experienced both myself.

I’d argue that it’s dumb as fuck either way.

On Thanksgiving, my aunt boils broccoli and potatoes and serves them totally unseasoned. Not even salt. 😢

It’s one of many reasons why I haven’t gone in years.

When you could just as easily eat NOTHING and have roughly the same nutritional value

I’m no nutritionist, but that seems incorrect based on my cursory Google search. lol

I actually like canned green beans slightly more than fresh or frozen. It has something to do with the texture, but idk what exactly. Though imo most veggies are definitely better fresh, for some reason I really enjoy canned peas too (I know I’m a weirdo).