I know this is probably rhetorical, but there’s probably room for further discussion. Strong overlap in the two groups with their transphobic binary gender/biological sex beliefs that is used to reinforce the “female make baby” beliefs. Also, distancing language. Hard to say if there’s room for course correction. Incel results don’t seem to deter incel thinking.

Have you tried being creative?

I had no idea of this entity, but I work with enough similarly, highly nuanced public professionals that I recognize that the rapid and blind “immediately destroy all gubberment” approach will have widespread oh-holy-fuck consequenes if not just for the extensive brain vacuum potentially left in the wake of this type of growing mentality. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and perspective.