I have been using KDE for a while, while I like many features I am looking for suggestions to the default email client:

Kmail - completely unusable for me and the only one which could maybe be integrated with kontacts, it could not receive mails from IMAP or pop or would receive only sometimes

Geary - good but too minimal, I need at least some kind of contact list and mailing lists feature, maybe this integrates with gnome contacts? I couldn’t find anything in settings

  • morbidcactus@lemmy.ca
    5·
    6 days ago

    I’ve used Thunderbird since forever as my go-to client, I used mutt as well for a while and that met my needs pretty well.

  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    7 days ago

    Kmail, Thunderbird, Evolution. That’s pretty much it.

    There’s always some weird niche client somewhere but it won’t be a hidden gem. Although I guess you can always use Pine (or rather Alpine nowadays) if you want to appear ubergeeky.

  • steeznson@lemmy.world
    2·
    7 days ago

    Has anyone got gmail or outlook working via SMTP in the past couple years? I was using the former with emacs gnus and then it started demanding additional auth that I couldn’t provide via a simple file, then in the past 6 months the latter stopped letting me log in.

    My ~/.gnus file was like this -

    setq user-mail-address "[email protected]"
      user-full-name "My Name")

(setq gnus-select-method
      '(nnimap "outlook"
           (nnimap-address "imap-mail.outlook.com")
           (nnimap-server-port 993)
           (nnimap-stream ssl)))

(setq smtpmail-smtp-server "smtp-mail.outlook.com"
      smtpmail-smtp-service 587
      gnus-ignored-newsgroups "^to\\.\\|^[0-9. ]+\\( \\|$\\)\\|^[\"]\"[#'()]")

    ~/.authinfo (encrypted with gpg) -

    machine imap-mail.outlook.com login my.name@hotmail.co.uk password **** port 993
machine smtp-mail.outlook.com login my.name@hotmail.co.uk password **** port 587

    I think I might need to start hosting my own email server because every authentication option on these services requires some extra step or fingerprinting that gnus can’t provide. Maybe I should give up and try Thunderbird to see if that would work.

    • Isaac@waterloolemmy.caEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      I spun up a mailcow instance relatively simply through elestio (new to me devops as a service). Takes a few clicks, let’s you pick your cloud provider and has pretty slick admin UI to manage firewalls and dockerfiles etc.

      I’ve never setup an SMTP server before, but I’ve decided to with my “buy Canadian” initiative to eschew the tech-oligarchy at every turn I can. Not for Canadians sovereignty alone, but to help get rid the planet of billionaires by starving them of their capital.

      But I digress, mailcow makes setting up DNS a breeze and elestio makes mailcow a breeze. I’ve actually spun up this Lemmy instance on elestio too, just so nice its a game changer. Here’s info about mailcow https://elest.io/open-source/mailcow and no I’m not affiliated with elestio, just seems solid thus far (only been using it for a month, but support is on point too).

    • steeznson@lemmy.world
      2·
      7 days ago

      Ok going to try Thunderbird tomorrow and if it works then I’ll see if I can reverse engineer whatever it does into gnus

    • Novaling@lemmy.zipEnglish
      103·
      8 days ago

      I have no idea if Betterbird is actually better than regular Thunderbird, but I use that cause people said so and I read about it a bit. If it does die I guess I’ll switch to Thunderbird, just a little cautious about Mozilla after the privacy policy fiasco.

      Betterbird is in flathub too which is great for newbies like me.

    • janbaumy@lemm.eeEnglish
      81·
      8 days ago

      I second this! It seems to have more features than Thunderbird while being just a fifth of the file size.

      I can‘t confirm this, but I have read elsewhere that Thunderbird is a bit bloated.

      • Pirata@lemm.ee
        53·
        8 days ago

        Aren’t you concerned that the development is in the hands of just one guy?

        • Random Dent@lemmy.mlEnglish
          9·
          8 days ago

          Not the above poster, but for me: it’s a slight concern but AFAIK the profiles are interchangeable so it’s pretty trivial to just switch back to Thunderbird if anything does happen.

            • janbaumy@lemm.eeEnglish
              5·
              8 days ago

              That‘s not how it works. The mails are not stored on BetterBird servers (there are none). Your mails are stored on your E-Mail providers server (like Gmail) and downloaded to your local client via IMAP or POP3.

              The developer of BetterBird does not have access to any of that.

              • Pirata@lemm.ee
                51·
                8 days ago

                Oh, understood. Dumb me, lol.

                So, aren’t there security risks associated with using Betterbird?