It’s nice to see the senate opposition functioning.
Edit: 18 hours of holding the senate floor, giving voice to the american people. Lots of tears as american suffering is read out loud for the congressional record. Testiment from Americans across the country. This is the voice of the people. Please click the link, share and watch. The media needs to know we care about the opposition more than we care about trump rambling on a plane about fort knox.
Maybe when the Democrats stop taking the corporate campaign dollars that align them financially with their Republican colleagues and kick out the blue MAGA assholes like Fetterman.
Maybe if more than 20% of voters showed up and voted in the primaries instead of incessantly bitching about term limits, we wouldn’t have so many capitalist centrists in Congress.
What country do you think we’re talking about?
Obama proved that turnout improves when politicians make specific promises about the things they’re going to fix and the only message folks got from the Harris campaign was that everything is fine and nothing needs fixing.
Nobody’s bitching about the term limits on presidents, we bitch about term limits in congress because it’s the only way to get the dinosaurs holding back progress to step down.
We’re talking about the US Congress. Congressional primaries average ~20% voter turnout.
There’s no voting our way out of this
Maybe because there’s nobody to turn out for?
Yeah, because America isn’t a democracy. It only pretends to be one.
There’s no fixing this without rewriting the constitution and there’s no way to do that when our politics are this dysfunctional.
We directly elect Congress. My point was poor primary turnout results in more of the same. Your argument is pointless criticism. Throw your hands up in disgust somewhere else.
The poor primary turnout isn’t the cause of the problem, it’s the inevitable result of an electoral system that is designed to prioritize money over people.
Merely improving turnout is not our goal, at best it is a means to an end. The actual end goal is the establishment of a government that represents the interests of all, but there’s no way to get there from here even with 100% turnout.
I’m not “throwing my hands up in disgust”, I’m offering a clear-eyed perspective on the challenges we face and the hardships that must be endured to achieve democracy.
If your organization isn’t treating the U.S. government as a threat actor then it can be safely ignored. If it is, then your opsec shouldn’t allow you to talk about it online.
Sure, idealism is great, but none of that will happen by November 2026. I’m suggesting we use the system that is already available to us before condemning its efficacy. Why is that sentiment worthy of contest?
Because the system is designed to give people like us zero levers of control.
The only idealist here is the person sugesting that reform from within the system is possible.
I think there are some good arguments for not having term limits in congress. One of the most convincing is a new congressman is more likely to be manipulated through ignorance versus the entrenched interest of an older one.
We need AGE limits. 80 year olds can’t do anything more than consult in the government. If the DNC loves 80 year old dinosaurs so much, they can pay them to consult younger congress people. I value the wisdom of pelosi but i need youthful vigor of AOC. AOC has like the right amout of experience to be effective in government, we wouldnt want to Term limit AOC before her time to shine ya know?
I agree with both age and term limits. My comment was meant to illustrate the hypocrisy in people complaining about the lack of efficacy of a system that they don’t even use.
Yea there’s a lot of that going on in here. Mind boggling how so many people can criticize a government they are willfully ignorant of. The people most desperate to exercise their political will can’t seem to manage to figure out how. I’m trying to help them. we need that kind of passion.
I’m with you there. I’ve been doing that since the 90s. Most of my friends are Gen-Xers. Wanna talk about a frustrating group to engage?🙄
Yea im that age as well where big brother and friends are young GenX knuckle heads. Gen Z is REALLY hard to communicate with. the women are super intelligent and articulate and the boys leave a lot to be desired in intellectual conversation. The younger they are the more this stand out. I’m hoping gen A is based.
GenX has had a really disappointing political evolution. The punk rock boys i looked up to are extinct.
Agreed. A piece of me died when they closed CBGB’s. It seems like the grunge apathy stuck around far too long too.
It’s just like you can make these gerrymandered racist districts disappear and reform by wagging a finger at them.
Our government persists in its current form only because the American public is too cowardly to resist it. Those districts could disappear and reform overnight if enough of us stopped treating them as valid.
Well thats a fair point i guess. i dont know how im supposed to resist the voters will in some georgia shithole county but i like your idea about boycotting.
It’s not the voters you need to resist, it’s the idea that a government can be valid when it purposefully acts against the best interests of those it is supposed to represent. Our implied consent of the governed is false and should not be respected.
You’re speaking my language now. I really rejoice in your idea.
Yea and maybe we can wave a magic wand and make Marg Taylor Green’s district all respect people and democracy! wouldn’t that be nice!