Bidens republican immigration bill goes nowhere so he decides to float his own version of a Muslim ban?

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    The part of the base that this anti-immigration move will anger is the same part of the base that’s already angry about the genocide.

    It’s like he’s trying to piss them off specifically and as much as possible.

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      If the part that’s going to be pissed off is less than what could be won then is the risk worth taking? Some campaign manager must have thought so or this appeal against his own base is a terrible gamble.

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        Yes I’m sure he’s not just doing this on a whim, but we’ll see how this pays off in November.

        If he loses it’s his fault alone.

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          Nah they’ll blame the people he alienated. They did it for Hillary, they’ll do it for Biden. They block anything remotely progressive and then wonder why progressives don’t run to the polls for them.

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            I blame Hillary and the people who didn’t vote for her. They still had a choice. And it was a dumbass choice they made.

            Edit: If you don’t vote for Biden, and Trump wins, you are culpable. That’s literally how voting works.

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              No, pretty sure it’s everyone who doesn’t find supporting genocide a big enough deal to seek another path for the election. Everyone supporting Biden now is responsible for propping up a bad candidate.

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                    If I had a vote, I’d be voting for the guy stopping trump from killing you, what else do you want me to do, if even you won’t help yourselves in the simplest way possible?

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                  You are enabling, your making the unacceptable choice. No candidate has any more privilege than another. Your making up a narrative, your being dishonest and your goal is cause harm.

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                If you say so.

                But voting is literally how we decide who is in power, and it cost nothing. SCOTUS being hijacked by radicals is a direct result of the 2016 election. Everyone got together and decided (through the Electoral College) that Trump was the person to lead us. Everyone had a voice. Some chose not to use that.

                • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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                  Everyone got together and decided (through the Electoral College) that Trump was the person to lead us.

                  Gibberish. Everyone got together and decided that Clinton was the President, then the Electoral College overruled the democratic will of the majority and we got Trump anyway. Everyone has a voice. $ome voices matter more than others.

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          If the person who is better for the country loses then it is all of our faults. In a democracy it’s up to the citizens to know the candidates, understand the system and what people can and can’t do, understand how the election system works, and be aware of what the stakes are.

          Political campaigns attempt to hold your hand and pull you in a certain direction because it’s in their best interest to do so, but the blame for what happens in January 2025 rests with all of us.

                  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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                    You’re saying “vote for my guy or else” and then acting like it’s my fault hostage takers are going to execute me.

                    But also, that’s complicated by the fact that America is a blight on the world. The world would literally be better off if this shit hole declines because it can’t fuck with everyone else in the world anymore.

                    Israel, for instance, wouldn’t be able to do genocide if the US was no longer able to provide weapons and protection.